Aberdeen early 1800's

[Roberta Wilkie]

Thanks David. Am sure John's parents are from Aberdeenshire would love to know who they are. Any possibilities you have please send them to me. Thank you so much

[David Nicoll]

Roberta,

    Hi, as others have indicated the more known information the better.
    As you probably know, when you get this far back it is very much a jigsaw puzzle.
   
    If I have it correct, in the 1851 census you have
    John Wilkie, 41
    Elizabeth Wilkie, wife
    James, 12
    Margaret, 9
    Agnes, 9
    Jane, 7
    Grace, 5
    Catherine, 3
 
    It is slightly complicated by the two girls who appear to be twins, but by naming tradition we should probably have his father and mother as James and Agnes, and her mother as Margaret. This gives us Campbell's to look at and look for further family names, which might give pointers to his family names.
   
    Is there any more information on the marriage you have?

    I notice that in 1871, he is widower? He seems to have lost a couple of years. His real age? Or doesn't want to be old!

    There are three possible John's in Fife in 1809 James and Isabel Jackson in Newburgh look interesting as they also have a daughter Grace.
 
    It is worth noting that Wilkie is not that common a name in Aberdeenshire, particularly John. When searching on SP there is only one page of John Wilkie's in Aberdeenshire. There are many in Fife and Angus.
    You may well already have done this, but it is very much worth building speculative trees, both for possibles John's and for any Aberdeenshire matches that make you think he or his family are from Aberdeenshire. I have on several occasions found people this way, particularly by building DNA match trees.
    More than happy to try and help further.

[Roberta Wilkie]

Yes have done DNA tests with Living DNA and Ancestry. Both should be public. Have links back to John and am working on Elizabeth now. Can be viewed on Ancestry.  Only other thing on the marriage certificate was a Robert Wilkie as a witness. He also had a farm in Walpole a couple of lots from John. His gravestone said was a native of Fifeshire, Scotland. Have requested information from the library in Haldimand Co. but haven't heard anything back yet from them. Hoping to get more information about the Wilkie families. Will check out James and Isabel Jackson of Newburgh. Thanks!

[Roberta Wilkie]

Chescked out James and Isabel and don't think their John is the right one. Any other Wilkie's you can think of ?

[David Nicoll]

Roberta,

    Hi, ok, sorry to have pointed you in the wrong direction. Have you tried any speculative trees with any of the other John Wilkie's around the right time. Put them in Ancestry on their own with the dates in SP and see if anyone else has researched them and done the hard work? It would potentially be a simple way of eliminating them.

David

[Roberta Wilkie]

Yes have hired a couple to help me thru the Family Search Center at the Mormon Church. They are unable to find any links thru the Ancestry DNA public family trees. The Genealogy Dept. from Haldimand Co. Ontario has found evidence that John Wilkie is from Aberdeenshire. She has been out sick so is just getting back to working on him again.  Will keep you posted. Thanks for your suggestions I certainly appreciate it. Is difficult for me to search people in Scotland as not familiar with the towns there. I am from the USA.

[David Nicoll]

Roberta,

  No worries, I have the same issue with tracking Canadian relatives.
  If you could advise on the links to Aberdeenshire I am more than happy to try to assist as I am sure would be others on the site.
  Do you have Duncan’s wife’s Christian name? Every little helps.
  Have you not managed any links on your DNA at all?
  Most of mine are out of the Scotland but I can usually track them back to at least a rough area.

David

[David Nicoll]

Hi,

  Have you seen that Robert may have left a will? The is one that may be him?

WILKIE ROBERT ..  1869 ..  HALDIMAND COUNTY UPPER CANADA-ONTARIO SURROGATE COURT WILLS ESTATE FILES

   May be worth getting it looked at?

[hgs46]

I wonder if you've noted the John Wilkie born on 13 Dec 1813 at Abdie, Fife. (Not Aberdeen, I know.) His parents I think were James Wilkie, mason, in the parish of Newburgh, Fife, and Janet Kempie of the parish of Abdie, Fife who married on 8 July 1811 in Newburgh. Online there is an Excel file which appears to include this family who were buried in Abdie Churchyard. Janet is named as Janet Kemp. The gravestone was erected by son David Wilkie (tailor, unmarried) who died on 27 Sep 1886 at Mason Street, Newburgh aged 67. I'm sorry I can't find an Aberdeenshire connection to this family, unless further back in time.