Alberbury Shropshire Jones's

[jibhauler14]

I have a Thomas Jones who in 1851 is living in Bilston Staffs, married to Elizabeth in 1871 still living in Bilston with Elizabeth and still working as a labourer in a Colliery, his birth place despite conflicting spelling would appear to be Alberbury Shropshire, his wife is down as being born in Wales.. in 1851 they have lodgers also named Jones a son in law Alexander from Ruabon Denbighshire and 2 others also from Ruabon and named Jones so first question..

If Thomas was born in Alberbury in 1799 I have found 3 baptisms one 26/01/1800 son of Thomas and Diana, 2nd son of Thomas and Margaret on 16/11/1800 and 3rd son of Maurice and Mary on 09/08/1801 I have discounted the last due to the time difference and fathers name, any way to confirm which is correct please I have not found any other baptisms but then he may not have been baptised in Alberbury.

I also have a wedding certificate for a Thomas Jones and an Elizabeth Roberts dated 30/09/1842 Thomas is a batchelor his father being John Jones a farmer Elizabeths father is Robert Roberts also a farmer, the church appears to be in Llandrith yr Rhos in Denbighshire.

Q1 any thoughts and whether the wedding is of my Thomas who in 1871 is living in Bilston.
Q2 any thoughts as to the Baptism given that the fathers on all 3 were not John but Thomas.

There are a lot of Jones's about...
Any help and advice appreciated.
Jib
   

[rosie99]

Is this the family in 1841 - Bilston
Thomas   Jones   40 - not born in county
Elizabeth   Jones   45 - not born in county   
Thomas   Jones   12   bn Staffordshire
Ann   Jones      9   bn Staffordshire

HO107
Piece  1001
Book  3
Folio  29
Page  19

[rosie99]

Baptism St Leonards, Bilston 
Thomas son of Thomas & Elizabeth - 19th April 1829


There are a few Jones children baptised at Bilston around that time with parents named Thomas and Elizabeth

[jibhauler14]

No not those Jones in 1841 they are in Bilston on Oxford St, in 1851 they have moved to Pinfold St, ref HO 107/2021 and then back to Oxford St in 1871, there are Jones everywhere, in 1851 they have a son in law Alexander Jones who is an engineer from Ruabon..
Jib

[rosie99]

To make things a bit clearer for those trying to help, this is the family in 1851 Pinfold Street

Thomas Jones   52   bn Abberbury Shropshire, England
Elizabeth Jones   54   bn   Wales
Alexander   Jones Son-in-law27   bn Denbighshire, Wales
Ann   Jones   Daughter   Married 19    - bn   Bilston
Mary J. Jones   Grand daughter   2 bn    Bilston
Elizabeth Jones   Grand daughter    10 months bn Bilston
Mary   Jones   Lodger - Married - 52   - bn Denbighshire, Wales
Nimrod   Jones - Lodger   15 - bn Denbighshire, Wales
Archibald   Jones - Lodger    10   bn Denbighshire, Wales
HO107
Piece 2021
Folio 378
Page 19
FindMyPast have this census entry indexed twice  .  One was giving place of birth for Thomas as Worcestershire and the other Shropshire.  The image does not give a County


This is the family I just mentioned - They are living in Oxford Street, Bilston in 1841
 
Thomas   Jones   40 - not born in county
Elizabeth   Jones   45 - not born in county   
Thomas   Jones   12   bn Staffordshire
Ann   Jones      9   bn Staffordshire

HO107
Piece  1001
Book  3
Folio  29
Page  19

[rosie99]

In 1841 Mary Jones and Nimrod Jones who are with the family in 1851 are in Swansea
HO107
Piece  1426
Book  8
Folio  48
Page  27

[jibhauler14]

Didn't know about Nimrod but then not sure where he fits in, or what his relationship is to Thomas, he certainly moves around from Denbigh to Swansea to Bilston he seems to have a younger brother who was born in Denbigh aged 10, will look again at the parish records for Abberbury it looks as though the family may have been in the Ruabon area as the son in law comes from this area before moving down to Bilston, maybe Mary is his mother who moved down to Bilston with the rest of the family, the grandaughter..   

[Mabel Bagshawe]

Might be a total coincidence but Alexander and Ann have a daughter named Diana - might point to her grandmother?

[jibhauler14]

I think that is a good point, I discounted the father being Maurice as there do not seem to be any Maurice’s in the family, and the baptism date fits closer to his age for that with his parents being Thomas and Diana I will check the records I have for Abberbury to see if I can find a marriage for them I am sure there is a link with Ruabon as the son Alexander is back there with his family in 1871 and one of his children was born there, thanks for lighting the spark..
Jib