Father of Illegitimate Line

[ChrisO]

Hi all
Do any NZ records exist where the mother of an illegitimate child would be seeking maintenance  from the father through legal channels?  My paternal grandfather was born Hastings 10 Jan 1908 (conceived May 1907).  Mother was Charlotte (Lottie) Elizabeth Kelly, born 1884 Holloway, Mdx, Eng.  Thanks to DNA I know the Scottish family the father came from but not who he was.  This was a large family named Cameron who emigrated to Victoria in 1853 and the father could have been a son or grandson of this couple. 

I can confirm that Lottie's mother and second husband were living Wellington in 1910 (previously living Sydney).    I have identified a potential father (Goode) who arrived into Wellington mid March 1907 with his new wife and returned to Victoria late 1908.  There is evidence that Charlotte may have been a ship stewardess 1907 (vessels Maheno & Monowai) which is how they may have met.  However, another branch of the family (MacDonald) were in Bluff, then Lyttleton & Dunedin around this time as well.  Bluff was a stop over for these vessels.

So far DNA hasn't helped to isolate the branch so I was wondering if Charlotte may have sought some sort of court injunction for maintenance support from the father.  Can anyone offer any advice on this please?
Regards
Chris

[TwiggyTree]

I have found such like in the NZ Police Gazette.

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/periodicals/new-zealand-police-gazette

The one I found mentioned the child's name and the name of the parent that support was being saught from, but not the custodial parent.

[chrisos]

Hi Twiggy Tree
Thank you for the suggestion.  I'm rather stuck here as I don't know for sure who the father was. I had a look at the police gazette entries on the link you included (thank you) and searched for the child's name, the potential father's name and the mother's name but nothing really stood out.  Will need to look again more closely just to make sure I didn't miss anything.

I am leaning towards the father being Benjamin Goode (a grandson of the Camerons) mainly because I can place him in Wellington around the same time as Lottie's mother.  Interestingly in his Obit it stated that he and his wife left NZ in the latter part of 1908 because of his wife's "continuing" ill health.  She lived to be 89 for goodness sakes so she can't have been that ill.  They only had 1 child, a son who never married, which may possibly account for the lack of DNA evidence.  I wondered if they left because of Lottie.

Unfortunately if Lottie was the stewardess in the records, she travelled between Melbourne, Sydney, Bluff, Auckland & Wellington.  Difficult to pin down where she and the father got together in May 1907.
Chris

[minniehaha]

Hi, just a couple of points.

I note that at the birth registration of her son in 1908, mother's Christian name is shown as Charlottie. No Elizabeth.

There is a birth registration for a Charlotte Kelly for the September quarter of 1884. No Elizabeth for this registration.

Minniehaha.

[chrisos]

Hi
Re the middle name Elizabeth.  This came from her bpt entry but she seemed to be known as Lottie more than anything. 
Chris

[giblet]

Might be a long shot but have you looked at names? Such as some single mother's had father's name included in their childs name. Have any of the Cameron family the same christian name as your grandfather?

[chrisos]

Hi Giblet
I know where you are coming from but unfortunately my grandfather’s name Douglas isn’t featured in the Cameron family.  The Kelly family have been traced back to Douglas, Isle of Man but it isn’t confirmed that that is theotigin of the name.
Regards Chris

[jorose]

At the birth, what address is given?

Did Douglas stay in NZ with his mother or get taken in by other family such as his grandmother and her second husband?


https://collections.archives.govt.nz/en/web/arena/search#/entity/aims-archive/R20176721/maintenance-orders%3A-hastings?source=aims-archive
It looks like maintenance records from 1908 may survive but they have not yet been digitised.

[chrisos]

Hi jorose
Doug's birth cert just shows H Bay (Hawkes Bay), Hastings.
His mother Charlotte married another Australian named Ernest Taylor in 1910 and they remained in the Hastings area until at least 1925.  Their first Aussie child was born Sydney in 1928.
Doug remained with Lottie & Ernest until he was old enough to look after himself.  He stayed behind in NZ when they left because he had an apprenticeship.  He followed about 7-8 years later with his wife & 2 children.

I had a look at the link you forwarded.  The dates were 1953-1965.  Not sure if this means when they were created or the coverage dates.
Chris