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Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #9 on: Friday 17 January 25 15:29 GMT (UK) »
Hello
Sarah Wadson married Thomas Linford 19.11.1800 at St Martins Birmingham so it looks like she would be born c 1780 .So a baptism 1779 fits.
If Richard married first 1758 so born 1728-1742.
There is an earlier Richard buried 4.7.1748 at Aldridge who left a Will 1749.
It mentions wife Sarah
Sons Richard ,Thomas and Isaac .Brother Thomas and son in law William Grove.
Lot of land and farms.

There is a Richard over in Great Barr children Mary 5.1.1727 died same year,Richard 21.3.1729 ,Joseph 24.12.1733-35 ,Thomas 4.1.1735 and Isaac 26.12.1737.
Maybe a daughter Sarah 4.1.1720 St Martins Birmingham.

That Richard would be 29 when he married Ann Heath .Older but ok and he did have a widowed mother Sarah buried Gt Barr 24.3.1772.

Seems to fit

ps marriage St Mary Handsworth Richard Wadson and Sarah Grove 21.10.1728

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Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 19 January 25 19:21 GMT (UK) »
I really appreciate everything you have done, you've been realy helpful.
I've attaced the following:
Faulkner, Rainbow, Linford, Liney, Frisby, Tate, Blackwell, Smith, Barker

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Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 19 January 25 19:24 GMT (UK) »
attachement 2
Faulkner, Rainbow, Linford, Liney, Frisby, Tate, Blackwell, Smith, Barker

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Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 19 January 25 22:52 GMT (UK) »
The first clip is pretty hazy wolko.
It is only 125 kbs - you are allowed up to 500 kbs.

I've managed to transcribe the start of it, but after that it gets too hazy when you zoom in.
Can you post another clip of this bit as a bigger size file?

It does seem to only mention his 3 sons.
In your first post you said it mentioned 6 children including the Sarah Ann and John we found.
Where does it do that? They are not mentioned in this clip.
It looks as though there is more to come after the piece you posted.
It would help  make a decision as to whether this Richard is the same father of them all.
It also mentions some names of the properties he holds, but it is too fuzzy to make a definite transcription. It MIGHT clear up whether he is of the same family as the previous generation of Wadsons of Great Barr. I can see the word 'Birmingham' in there, and a place called 'Wadsons Court', but it really needs to be transcribed properly.

In the Name of God Amen I Richard Wadson of Aldridge
in the County of Stafford Yeoman being weak in body but of sound mind
and memory, and duly considering that it is appointed for all men
to die doe publish and declare this my last will and Testament
in manner and form following (that is to say) first I give and bequeath
unto my three sons Richard Wadson, William Wadson and Thomas Wadson
the sum of one shilling a piece to be respectively paid to them in twelve
calendar months next after my decease by my Executors hereinafter
named I give devise and bequeath unto my dear and living Wife Elizabeth
Wadson All these my six? leasehold messuages ??
Tenements together with their one each and every of their appurtenances

Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs


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Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 19 January 25 22:59 GMT (UK) »
The second clip is the probate, and just mentions his wife Elizabeth.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #14 on: Monday 20 January 25 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Good Morning
Just in case you go with the Wadsons I found in Great Barr.
Richard and Sarah Grove married 1728 Handsworth looks right.
Sarah was a widow who was previously married to a Joseph Groves. (Admin 1728/9).
They had 2 children William 24.11.1724 and Joseph 1.5.1727 .The latter seems to have died before his father's death in 1728  and the upbringing of William is mentioned in the Admin.
So the 1728 marriage may have been a letter marriage for both and Richard Wadson and Sarah Groves older than you would normally assume..

Just in case it helps.

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Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #15 on: Monday 20 January 25 19:54 GMT (UK) »
2nd part of last will and testament
Faulkner, Rainbow, Linford, Liney, Frisby, Tate, Blackwell, Smith, Barker

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Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #16 on: Monday 20 January 25 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Thank you to everyone that as helped, sorry the attachment is so fuzzy, that is how it appears on FindMyPast when downloaded.
Again thank you all for your help, it is greatly appreciated.
Faulkner, Rainbow, Linford, Liney, Frisby, Tate, Blackwell, Smith, Barker

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Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #17 on: Monday 20 January 25 21:05 GMT (UK) »
Rest of will: (This is a larger file size and much easier to read when you zoom in).

(Subject to the Ground rent therefore due) situate in and near Chapel Street
in Birmingham aforesaid in the County of Warwick in the several tenures of
William Newman and others, and called Wadsons Court And also All my
Household Goods Furniture Live and dead Stock, Monies, Cattle, Chattels
Effects and personal Estate wheresoever and whatsoever To hold the same
Messuages and premises and my said Goods and Personal Estate unto
my said wife Elizabeth Wadson for and during the term of her natural
Life until she marries again And from and immediately after her
decease or second marriage I give devise and bequeath the same
Leaseholds Messuages and premises Goods and Personal Estate unto
my three Children Sarah Linford, Ann Wadson and John Wadson To hold
to them their Executors Administrators and Assigns for their own separate
use and benefit As Tenants in Common and not as joint Tenants
And declaring this to be my last Will and Testament I nominate and appoint
my said Wife Elizabeth Wadson sole Executrix hereof In Witness whereof I
have hereunto set and put my hand and seal this seventh day of
February One thousand eight hundred and six           Richard Wadson
Signed sealed published and declared by the said Richard Wadson
on the day the same bears date as and for his last will and Test
ament in the presence of me who at his request in his presence and
in the presence of each other have set and inscribed our names



So we do have all six 6 children! Bingo!

I wonder why the 3 older children only get 'a shilling'.
Perhaps they had already had legacies or monies when they reached 21, or married - although there are no grandchildren named in this will from any of the children.
Having been mentioned in it and left a shilling, I understand they would not have been able to contest the will for a greater part of the estate.

And with Birmingham also being mentioned it certainly looks like it is the same family as the one  around Great Barr.
Stacking up nicely, although still no more clues as to who Elizabeth was.
You mentioned she also left a will.
Does it mention any of her family other than her children?

Ive just re-read through these posts, and I think what you thought was a will for Elizabeth, is the second image you posted, which was the administration of Richard's will, where Elizabeth was executrix.
Do you know when Elizabeth died?


Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs