Author Topic: Richard Wadson/Watson  (Read 1216 times)

Offline wolko58

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 25
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Richard Wadson/Watson
« on: Tuesday 14 January 25 19:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I'm researching my 5 x Great Grandfather Richard Wadson/Watson, born about 1750 in Staffordshire and died 1806 in Aldridge.  On his last will and testament his surname is written as Wadson but it could be misspelt.   He married Elizabeth ? from what I've got so far they had 6 children, all mentioned in his will.  If there is anyone that as got any further information I would be really grateful or any ideas of where I can look for the full name of Elizabeth etc.
Many thanks.
Faulkner, Rainbow, Linford, Liney, Frisby, Tate, Blackwell, Smith, Barker

Offline goldie61

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,891
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 14 January 25 21:58 GMT (UK) »
On familysearch.org are these baptisms at Aldridge of Richard WADSON and Eliz.

Sarah 3 March 1779
Ann 10 Nov 1780

At Walsall (4 miles)
John WADSON 9 Jan 1789

I cant see a likely marriage for Richard and Elizabeth.

What are the names of the other children mentioned in the will?
What are the names of the witnesses, and/or overseers?
Was there an inventory of goods taken? Who did the appraising of them?

It may be that Elizabeth's family were mentioned in some other capacity.


There are quite a lot of entries for the name Wadson in this part of Staffordshire, so I don't think you can presume it's a spelling mistake.
You'll need to search under both Wadson and Watson.

There is a Richard WADSON baptised Dec 1758 at Aldridge, father Richard, mother Ann.
Richard WADSON married Ann Heath 31 Jan 1758 at Aldridge.
Half a dozen children baptised to them at Aldridge, some Watson, some Wadson.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

Offline wolko58

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 25
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 January 25 20:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Thank you for your response, it was helpful, it's something to follow up,
The children names in the will was, Richard, William, Thomas, Sarah, Ann and John, and wife Elizabeth was sole Executive.  I can't see any other names on there apart from a signaure of a Chas. Buckridge Snr at the finish.
There was tenaments, goods and if I'm reading it right Wadson's Court is mentioned, the writing is not the best to read.
Again thank you for your help
Faulkner, Rainbow, Linford, Liney, Frisby, Tate, Blackwell, Smith, Barker

Offline goldie61

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,891
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 16 January 25 07:52 GMT (UK) »

The children names in the will was, Richard, William, Thomas, Sarah, Ann and John, and wife Elizabeth was sole Executive. 

Is this the order that their names appear in the will?
Usually children were mentioned from the eldest to the youngest, but it was not a hard and fast rule.
If this was in order of their ages, they would seem to have had 3 children before Sarah in 1779 - the earliest baptism found so far.
Have you found the other three baptisms?

Added:
I can't find any baptisms for the older children to Richard and Elizabeth - Richard,William and Thomas, at Aldridge, or indeed the whole of Staffordshire, (or Derbyshire which is next to it).
HOWEVER, there is a baptism of a son Richard in 1759, William in 1760 and Thomas in 1766.
These are all children of Richard and Ann, as mentioned before.
Ann 'the wife of Richard Wadson' was then buried in 1774 at Aldridge.
(This was Ann Heath as mentioned before - she married Richard in Jan 1758).
It looks like what has happened is that Richard has then married, (or not!), Elizabeth a few years later about 1776, and had another 3 children with her.

Do you  know how old Richard was when he died in 1806. The transcript on familysearch doesn't give an age, and the registers can only be viewed on findmypast.
You say in your original post, 'born about 1750'.
Is that just an estimate considering the baptism of the children you had found?

Still not found a marriage for Richard and Elizabeth about 1776.

Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs


Offline goldie61

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,891
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 16 January 25 08:38 GMT (UK) »
Are there any grandchildren mentioned in Richard's will of 1806?
Which of his children already have children of their own?


When did Elizabeth die? Did she leave a will?
What about any of their children?


If you want to post any parts of the will you're not too sure about, you can add an attachment to this post, or there is a special board for deciphering handwriting here
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/handwriting-deciphering-recognition/



Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

Offline wolko58

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 25
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 16 January 25 18:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi
You have been so helpful and you confirmed what I was looking at last night about Richard having a '2nd Wife'.
I didn't about being able to post copies of wills on this site, I'm still learning,
there is another Will from when Elizabeth died, I shall try and attach both.
Again thank you for your time.
Faulkner, Rainbow, Linford, Liney, Frisby, Tate, Blackwell, Smith, Barker

Offline wolko58

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 25
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 16 January 25 19:14 GMT (UK) »
Hi
No grandchildren mention,
I'm presuming Elizabeth died about 1816 as I've just found a second document on the death of Elizabeth that effects to go to Sarah Wadson now married to Thomas Linford.
Unfortunately it will not let me attach the document as they are greater than 900kb, tried individually but it exceeds 500kb.
Faulkner, Rainbow, Linford, Liney, Frisby, Tate, Blackwell, Smith, Barker

Offline amondg

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,836
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 16 January 25 19:14 GMT (UK) »
Index to death duty registers National Archives via ancestry.

Index has wife Elizabeth sole executrix, receives everything for her lifetime, chattels, furniture, live stock etc. After her death to be divided equally between his 3 children, Sarah Lindford (looks like, married name? ) Ann Wadson, and John Wadson,

ADDED Richard was a Yeoman of Aldridge

Offline goldie61

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,891
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Richard Wadson/Watson
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 16 January 25 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi
No grandchildren mention,
I'm presuming Elizabeth died about 1816 as I've just found a second document on the death of Elizabeth that effects to go to Sarah Wadson now married to Thomas Linford.
Unfortunately it will not let me attach the document as they are greater than 900kb, tried individually but it exceeds 500kb.

Try clipping a part of the document. ('clipping tool on a PC, 'screenshot' on a Mac).
Here is some information on how to post an attachment
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,130922.0.html

And here to do a 'practice post'
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=370538.0
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs