John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845

[Neale1961]

Penrhyn appears to be a small hamlet (fishing village) on Cemaes Bay. It is covered by a couple of pages in the census, so maybe approx. 20 families. Grace was at an adress in Cemaes Bay when she died, so there were probably family round there. In 1841 there are a couple of Thomas families living in Penrhyn, but are they related?, and how?

[liverpoolgenealogy]

Penrhyn appears to be a small hamlet (fishing village) on Cemaes Bay. It is covered by a couple of pages in the census, so maybe approx. 20 families. Grace was at an adress in Cemaes Bay when she died, so there were probably family round there. In 1841 there are a couple of Thomas families living in Penrhyn, but are they related?, and how?

Struggling to find many concrete links for the Thomas family. Perhaps this is a sister of Grace? Seems a good match, but is Anglican.

Ann Thomas, bap 13 May 1810, Llanbadrig, Anglesey, daughter of John and Elinor. (Ancestry)

Struggling to find a marriage record for John and Eleanor. Closest I could find, but again it is Anglican:
27 May 1791, Llanbadrig, Anglesey
John Thomas, Almwch and Ellen Williams, Llanbadrig.

Is it possible that some of the people living in the area in 1841 census could be descendants of John's brothers? So cousins to Grace? But not sure if I would be able to prove any connections.

[liverpoolgenealogy]

Posting again here for some help! I realise this thread is rather old now so whether this gets any interest or not, I'm not sure! I've managed to trace a fair amount on the Thomas side, thank you to
everyone on this thread, but having a little trouble with the Williams side.

The Hugh Williams son of Hugh and Mary nee Jones baptised 1814 is not the correct baptism for this Hugh. I followed up this family; father Hugh died in 1835 buried in Llansadwrn, in 1851 census, at the same address of Hugh's death there is a widow Mary Williams, with a unmarried son, Hugh, aged 36, which rules out this family.

I've started looking again after a bit of a break, and I can't convincingly say I have found a baptism for Hugh, but there is one that's caught my eye.

Hugh Williams, son of Hugh Williams, labourer and his wife Ann, born 10 November 1810 in Llandegfan and baptised 13 November 1810.

It caught my eye for several reasons: A) it places Hugh nearer to his wife's age. B) The middle name Ann was the middle name of Hugh's first granddaughter from his son John (Grace Ann). I haven't found anybody else called Ann in this family, and he used other female relatives names when he named his children. C) Llandegfan is where Hugh's granddaughter Grace Ann died in 1893, aged 14. Her obituary had been posted earlier in this thread. This is the only family link I have managed to establish to Llandegfan, but if this baptism is correct for Hugh, it may establish an earlier connection to the area.

Hugh didn't live long enough to record his birthplace on the 1851 census, but may well not have been Llansadwrn. Only problem is, I can't follow up on this family, I haven't been successful in locating a marriage record for Hugh and Ann, or their death records, or any census records, so don't think I can commit to this being the 100% correct baptism. I'm probably missing something simple!

Any help is always appreciated! 

[Tall Al]

Hi,

Have a look at a web site FreeReg (freereg.org.uk)

Baptism of Hugh 13 Nov 1810 at Seion Church Beaumaris, residence of Hugh and wife Anne Llandegfan.

Potential marriage of Hugh Williams and Anne Williams on 31 August 1804 at St Mary and St Nicholas, Beaumaris (both of the same parish).

Worth investigating further perhaps

Alan   

[liverpoolgenealogy]

Thank you for pointing this out! I'll have a look and see what I can find!