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Re: John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 15 January 25 17:49 GMT (UK) »
There is a Grace Williams at the same address in 1861 - a widow - A House Servant bn Llanbadrig.
I have no idea what her age is supposed to be _3
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Re: John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 15 January 25 17:52 GMT (UK) »
1871 she is 64 and an Annuitant
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Re: John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 15 January 25 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Same Grace Williams now living in Llanbadrig in 1881 (widow pauper 74) and 1891 (wid 85) ?
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Re: John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 15 January 25 21:38 GMT (UK) »
Grace Williams
Death Date    2 Feb 1895
Age 89
Cemetery    St Padrig's Church, Llanbadrig
Spouse     Hugh Williams
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/238725971/grace-williams

The image of the gravestone seems to read as Hugh died in 1847 - address Penycheld  Llansadwrn


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Re: John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 15 January 25 21:47 GMT (UK) »
Hugh Williams
Death Age    28
Burial Date    23 Aug 1847    Llanbadrig,
Address  Tynycapel Llansadwrn

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Re: John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 15 January 25 21:54 GMT (UK) »
Good find Mabel - I have been looking for that

Possible marriage
Grace THOMAS marriage Hugh WILLIAMS 16 May 1842 Llanbadrig
Both full age, both marked X
Hugh a bachelor, labourer, son of Hugh Williams a labourer
Grace a spinster, daughter of John Thomas a labourer

Possible birth
WILLIAMS, JOHN       Mother’s name - THOMAS 
GRO Reference: 1845  S Quarter in OF THE ANGLESEY UNION  Volume 27  Page 353


It is possible the John we are looking for didn't have birth registered.
I think his birth was more likely in late 1844, so no registration is possible.


Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 15 January 25 22:13 GMT (UK) »
Wonder if this is HUgh's baptism - might make him a bit nearer Grace's age

Hugh Williams
Birth Date    27 May 1814,    Llansadwrn,
Baptism Date    19 Jun 1814     Penygarnedd Chapel  (records are indexed on Ancestry as Trinity Chapel, Beaumaris)
Denomination    Calvinistic Methodist
Father    Hugh Williams, labourer. 
Mother    Mary Williams nee Jones
Address  Ucheldre
Father's parish: Llangaffo
Mother's parish before marriage: Llanbadric

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Re: John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 15 January 25 22:32 GMT (UK) »
MARRIAGE  BANNS     10 Feb 1803       Llanbadrig St Patrick

Hugh Williams bachelor of Llanbadrig   to   Mary Jones spinster of Llanbadrig
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: John Williams, born Llansadwrn, c. 1845
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday 15 January 25 22:40 GMT (UK) »
Grace's year of birth recorded in the census tends to wander quite a bit.

Possible baptism
Grace THOMAS baptism in Seion Congragational chapel, Beaumaris
1 July 1805
Parents John and Eleanor Thomas
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)