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Re: old family letter from 1849
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 11 January 25 19:13 GMT (UK) »

According to the letter and the translation (reply #14), it was Dunmore Bay.

The transcription (not translation!) in reply #13 says Drumore.

But that is beside the point. Neither Drumore nor Dunmore make much sense - especially the latter.

But Dunree would.

Did you read the transcription in reply #14?
Have you looked at the letter closely?


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Re: old family letter from 1849
« Reply #19 on: Saturday 11 January 25 19:26 GMT (UK) »


Did you read the transcription in reply #14?
Have you looked at the letter closely?

Yes I have actually. Thanks for your concern.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: old family letter from 1849
« Reply #20 on: Saturday 11 January 25 20:25 GMT (UK) »
In the transcription I posted (Reply #13), I wrote Drumore Bay, because that's what I read in the letter.
Whether this refers to Drummore Bay, Dunree or another place is something worth investigating, but it won't be me. I'll stick to making transcriptions ;)

If you think I misread this place, please feel free to post your suggestion of what John Wilson wrote.

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Re: old family letter from 1849
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 12 January 25 02:31 GMT (UK) »
Drumore Bay seems likely, whether they were in bay for shelter until fine weather allowed them to set sail directly into the North Atlantic, or whether the shipping route included Liverpool port before heading out. Even the captain's death at the beginning of the voyage may have required the ship to port at Drumore.
NORTON (Kent), KEECH (Dorset), MOOR / MOORE (Kent), HOCKING (Dorset / Somerset), LEVI (City of York), SANDWELL (Kent), CHAFFIN  (Dorset / Somerset), STRONG (Dorset)


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Re: old family letter from 1849
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 12 January 25 03:03 GMT (UK) »
Drumore Bay seems likely, whether they were in bay for shelter until fine weather allowed them to set sail directly into the North Atlantic, or whether the shipping route included Liverpool port before

The ship sailed from Derry to North America. That Drumore is the opposite direction.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: old family letter from 1849
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 12 January 25 07:43 GMT (UK) »
Took forever to find the passenger list, but it led to this snippet, which you might want to keep with your letter!

Earlier ads for the bark Creole show "Clark" as Captain James Clarke.

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https://www.newspapers.com/article/public-ledger-bark-creole/162845782/

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Re: old family letter from 1849
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 12 January 25 09:25 GMT (UK) »
The arrival passenger list of the Barque Creole into Philadelphia dated August 18, 1849.

Has John Wilson as 24 yrs and Mrs Wilson as 22.

It appears Dall replaced Clark as captain

https://www.immigrantships.net/v12/1800v12/creole18490818.html

NORTON (Kent), KEECH (Dorset), MOOR / MOORE (Kent), HOCKING (Dorset / Somerset), LEVI (City of York), SANDWELL (Kent), CHAFFIN  (Dorset / Somerset), STRONG (Dorset)

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Re: old family letter from 1849
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 12 January 25 09:43 GMT (UK) »
Just found some information about the Barque ‘Creole’.

https://www.immigrantships.net/1800/creole18500718.html
Patton Antrim, Stockton on Tees
Smith Elgin, Skye of Curr, Speyside
Cumming Speyside
McQueen Speyside
Gentleman Hawick
McPhee Lanarkshire

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Re: old family letter from 1849
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 12 January 25 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Wayneort, just realised I sent a link to a different part of the same source you found.
Patton Antrim, Stockton on Tees
Smith Elgin, Skye of Curr, Speyside
Cumming Speyside
McQueen Speyside
Gentleman Hawick
McPhee Lanarkshire