Author Topic: Records of Employment for New Cumnock Coal Mine  (Read 874 times)

Offline vicky19

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Records of Employment for New Cumnock Coal Mine
« on: Monday 06 January 25 14:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi an elderly friend of my Dad's has asked me to try and find out some more information about his father. Him and his brother are trying to find out if the story they were told was true about their father working at the coal mine in New Cumnock in East Ayrshire. Ive had a quick look at Scotlands People but cant find anything there about mining. Is there a national mining central point for information in Scotland? Or an Archives in Ayrshire I can contact to ask for him? His Dad was born in Kilmarnock in 1905 and apparently also attended the Camborne School of mines in Cornwall so Im going to try and contact the archives in Cornwall for any information from them. Thanks Vicky
Lillywhite, Dwane, Hatchett, Curtis, Giuliani, Payne, Meen, Rockliff, Leopold, Winney, True, Groombridge, Middleton, Agombar, Scanlon, Grice, Vezey, Hindley, Cannell, Welch

Offline vicky19

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: Records of Employment for New Cumnock Coal Mine
« Reply #1 on: Monday 06 January 25 14:48 GMT (UK) »
I believe the mine at New Cumnock is the Knockshinnoch Castle Colliery.
Lillywhite, Dwane, Hatchett, Curtis, Giuliani, Payne, Meen, Rockliff, Leopold, Winney, True, Groombridge, Middleton, Agombar, Scanlon, Grice, Vezey, Hindley, Cannell, Welch

Offline GR2

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,832
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Records of Employment for New Cumnock Coal Mine
« Reply #2 on: Monday 06 January 25 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Have you found him on the 1921 census?

Offline vicky19

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: Records of Employment for New Cumnock Coal Mine
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 07 January 25 08:56 GMT (UK) »
Ill ask him, he's just asked me about these specific things as he's done most of the research on the easily found things like census.
Lillywhite, Dwane, Hatchett, Curtis, Giuliani, Payne, Meen, Rockliff, Leopold, Winney, True, Groombridge, Middleton, Agombar, Scanlon, Grice, Vezey, Hindley, Cannell, Welch


Offline vicky19

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: Records of Employment for New Cumnock Coal Mine
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 07 January 25 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Ive checked and the family were in Barrow in Furness in 1921.
Lillywhite, Dwane, Hatchett, Curtis, Giuliani, Payne, Meen, Rockliff, Leopold, Winney, True, Groombridge, Middleton, Agombar, Scanlon, Grice, Vezey, Hindley, Cannell, Welch

Offline GR2

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,832
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Records of Employment for New Cumnock Coal Mine
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 07 January 25 12:09 GMT (UK) »
If you are wondering if he worked at a mine in New Cumnock before leaving for England, there is a very short window between him reaching school leaving  age at 14 (13 1/3 if he had an exemption) and appearing in England in 1921.

If the family is in Ayrshire in the 1911 census, then it would be possible to use the valuation rolls to find out if they were still there in 1915 and 1920. It might also be worth checking to see if he or his father appear in the newspapers.

Offline David Nicoll

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 340
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Records of Employment for New Cumnock Coal Mine
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 07 January 25 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Vicky,

Hi, not sure what is preserved, but the National Mining Museum may be able to advise.

https://nationalminingmuseum.com/
Nicoll, Small - Scotland Dennis - Lincolnshire, Baldwin - Notts. Gordon, Fletcher Deeside

Offline Rena

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,951
  • Crown Copyright: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Records of Employment for New Cumnock Coal Mine
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 January 25 23:11 GMT (UK) »
When I was researching Scottish coal mines, I used this website:-

http://www.scottishmining.co.uk/377.html
Aberdeen: Findlay-Shirras,McCarthy: MidLothian: Mason,Telford,Darling,Cruikshanks,Bennett,Sime, Bell: Lanarks:Crum, Brown, MacKenzie,Cameron, Glen, Millar; Ross: Urray:Mackenzie:  Moray: Findlay; Marshall/Marischell: Perthshire: Brown Ferguson: Wales: McCarthy, Thomas: England: Almond, Askin, Dodson, Well(es). Harrison, Maw, McCarthy, Munford, Pye, Shearing, Smith, Smythe, Speight, Strike, Wallis/Wallace, Ward, Wells;Germany: Flamme,Ehlers, Bielstein, Germer, Mohlm, Reupke

Offline vicky19

  • RootsChat Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 193
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.natio
    • View Profile
Re: Records of Employment for New Cumnock Coal Mine
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 January 25 13:27 GMT (UK) »
Thanks David Ive contacted someone there, hes going to look for me.

Thanks Rena Ill have a look
Lillywhite, Dwane, Hatchett, Curtis, Giuliani, Payne, Meen, Rockliff, Leopold, Winney, True, Groombridge, Middleton, Agombar, Scanlon, Grice, Vezey, Hindley, Cannell, Welch