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Gretna Green Marriage
« on: Monday 30 December 24 19:28 GMT (UK) »
If a Couple Married 1870 at the Gretna Green Smithy is it possible to order a Copy of the Marriage Certificate from Scotland GRO ?
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Re: Gretna Green Marriage
« Reply #1 on: Monday 30 December 24 19:39 GMT (UK) »
No. (unless the couple obtained a Sheriffs warrant to allow them to register the marriage).

These marriages were a form of irregular marriage and were not normally recorded - However some of the Gretna Marriages were recorded by the businesses conducting them. I think Ancestry had some of these records.

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Re: Gretna Green Marriage
« Reply #2 on: Monday 30 December 24 19:51 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry  found the  page of Marriage listing the Two Names - and a Folio Number
I was asked if they can get more like a Copy of Marriage Certificate
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Re: Gretna Green Marriage
« Reply #4 on: Monday 30 December 24 23:26 GMT (UK) »
If you give the names of the bride and groom, I'll look in the Scotland's People index for 1870. If they are there, the certificate can be easily got. If they are not in the index, there will be no statutory certificate.

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Re: Gretna Green Marriage
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 31 December 24 07:46 GMT (UK) »
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Just found this
don't use it thats just one of the sites that charges you an inflated price eg they seem to charge £25.98 for an English GRO Birth Cert then presumably order it from the GRO for £12.50 and address it to you. Have probably just renamed themselves from ukofficial services to uk official records after https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dont-be-fooled-by-unofficial-certificate-websites

Gretna Marrriages 1794-1895 are on Ancestry https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/1636/

"irregular marriages notified to the registrar were infrequent in Scotland in the mid-nineteenth century, and fewer than 100 per year took place between 1855 and 1870"
https://www.gla.ac.uk/schools/socialpolitical/research/economicsocialhistory/projects/scottishwayofbirthanddeath/marriage/

Due to National Records of Scotland (and ScotlandsPeople) having revamped their websites 2 Dec 2024 a link about irregular marriages I found doesn't open but the old webpages have been archived https://webarchive.nrscotland.gov.uk/20241128123047/https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/birth-death-and-marriage-records/irregular-border-marriage-registers

I don't see a replacement on either of the new sites.

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Re: Gretna Green Marriage
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 31 December 24 10:32 GMT (UK) »
Cheers Everyone

The Couple is Folio 63 Thomas Scott and Jane Allison


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Re: Gretna Green Marriage
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 December 24 13:15 GMT (UK) »
Cheers Everyone

The Couple is Folio 63 Thomas Scott and Jane Allison




I have just searched the marriage index for Thomas Scott and Jane Allison but nothing found.