Mixed C of I Catholic wedding late 1800s?

[aghadowey]

Our local Reformed Presbyterian Church, and others in the area, were not originally licensed to perform marriages so a couple wanting to marry had to get married in the Registry Office. However, it was the custom to also get married by their own minister. When these marriages were announced in the local papers the venue was always (in all the ones I've researched) recorded as having taken place at the church with their own minister officiating.

Another local dissenting Presbyterian Church was Killaig whose early minister kept a notebook recording baptisms, etc. from the time of his arrival from Scotland until shortly before his death. One entry reads "1847. 1 Sepr. Wednesday James O'Tannahill married Margaret daughter to Wm. Kennedy Ballycaghan in the Registrars Office which was recognised by me as Minr. of the Congr. in the brides father's.
Here's the entry of the marriage in the Registry Office-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1847/09326/5377006.pdf

[Elwyn Soutter]

Our local Reformed Presbyterian Church, and others in the area, were not originally licensed to perform marriages so a couple wanting to marry had to get married in the Registry Office. However, it was the custom to also get married by their own minister. When these marriages were announced in the local papers the venue was always (in all the ones I've researched) recorded as having taken place at the church with their own minister officiating.

Another local dissenting Presbyterian Church was Killaig whose early minister kept a notebook recording baptisms, etc. from the time of his arrival from Scotland until shortly before his death. One entry reads "1847. 1 Sepr. Wednesday James O'Tannahill married Margaret daughter to Wm. Kennedy Ballycaghan in the Registrars Office which was recognised by me as Minr. of the Congr. in the brides father's.
Here's the entry of the marriage in the Registry Office-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1847/09326/5377006.pdf

Thanks for that. I note too that the 1847 religious celebration followed the Scottish custom (then) of not actually marrying in church. In this case the bride’s home. Sometimes it was the Manse, sometimes a local hotel but rarely a church.

[Wexflyer]

See also
https://api.parliament.uk/historic-hansard/lords/1842/aug/08/marriage-law-ireland

[Wexflyer]

Thanks for that. I note too that the 1847 religious celebration followed the Scottish custom (then) of not actually marrying in church. In this case the bride’s home. Sometimes it was the Manse, sometimes a local hotel but rarely a church.

Why do you consider that a Scotch custom?
It wasn't until sometime in the 1820-1840 period that a majority of Catholic marriages were performed in church rather than in a home.

[Jon_ni]

one might have to turn to acdemic research for more and delve into the Penal Law relaxation
https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/marriage-in-ireland-16601925/legal-marriage/60502E13BDA90A8E0BBC367007F10189

https://pure.qub.ac.uk/en/studentTheses/the-contribution-of-presbyterian-non-subscription-to-irish-religi Chapter 2 Marriage legislation

which comments about the pre civil custom of marriage at home rather than in church.
That certainly being the case for my Scottish great-grandmother 1881 but not just for Presbyterian marriages. On 14 Dec 1856 the Kirriemuir Episcopal Scots minister slogged up to Glenhead in Lintrathen and now the long abandoned summer shooting lodge to perform her mother's marriage (father was a Co Durham born gamekeeper for the Earl of Airlie). https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=14.5&lat=56.76187&lon=-3.20973&layers=1&right=OSLeisure

Certainly per above and following same faith marriage validity differed from that applicable to marriage of eg a Presbyterian and an Episcopalian. http://lisburn.com/books/history-presbyterian/history-presbyterian-2.html

Have found at least the title of the 1781 Act referred to on Hansard.
For the relief of Protestant Dissenters in certain matters therein contained.
Variant Title(s) To explain and amend so much of an act passed in the 11th year of the reign of his late majesty King George II entitled an act for allowing further time to persons in office to qualify themselves pursuant to an act entitled an act to prevent the further growth of Popery, and for giving further ease to Protestant Dissenters with respect to matrimonial contracts, as relates to the marriage of Protestant Dissenters. [2 Mar.]
https://www.qub.ac.uk/ild/?func=display_bill&id=4141

if click the [–] Further Details and link a search window opens with similar Acts, is another 1781 and one 1793

Edit: UHF also have a synopsis - Dissenters, Presbyterian marriages by Presbyterian minister legal between Presbyterians. https://ulsterhistoricalfoundation.com/genealogy-databases/statutes-passed-by-the-irish-parliament-1692-1800/24628

[Wexflyer]

Have found at least the title of the 1781 Act referred to on Hansard.
For the relief of Protestant Dissenters in certain matters therein contained.
Variant Title(s) To explain and amend so much of an act passed in the 11th year of the reign of his late majesty King George II entitled an act for allowing further time to persons in office to qualify themselves pursuant to an act entitled an act to prevent the further growth of Popery, and for giving further ease to Protestant Dissenters with respect to matrimonial contracts, as relates to the marriage of Protestant Dissenters. [2 Mar.]
https://www.qub.ac.uk/ild/?func=display_bill&id=4141

if click the [–] Further Details and link a search window opens with similar Acts, is another 1781 and one 1793

I found the same information - took a while to find it as the Act was actually passed in 1782, not 1781

[Jon_ni]

It wasn't until sometime in the 1820-1840 period that a majority of Catholic marriages were performed in church rather than in a home.

Actually The 1850 Synod of Thurles regulated about that. Was mentioned in the Bishops' article I came across in my 1st reply to Mackers. Here is the actual link https://www.catholicbishops.ie/2021/04/07/have-there-been-synods-in-ireland-in-the-past/

[Wexflyer]

It wasn't until sometime in the 1820-1840 period that a majority of Catholic marriages were performed in church rather than in a home.

Actually The 1850 Synod of Thurles regulated about. Was mentioned in the Bishops' article I came across in my 1st reply to Mackers. Here is the actual link https://www.catholicbishops.ie/2021/04/07/have-there-been-synods-in-ireland-in-the-past/

Thank you, that was not referenced as causal in the article I dimly remember, so it is interesting to see the 1850 prohibition.  I don't have the reference to hand, but I beleive the practice was in decline post emancipation.

[aghadowey]

Why do you consider that a Scotch custom?
It wasn't until sometime in the 1820-1840 period that a majority of Catholic marriages were performed in church rather than in a home.

I would also have considered it in light of a Scottish custom since these were Presbyterian marriages in Ulster with a long history of travel between Ireland and Scotland.