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Re: Missing death certificate
« Reply #9 on: Monday 30 December 24 21:41 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: lanarman on Monday 30 December 24 21:00 GMT (UK)
I took a look in the Kirk Session records and found no records available for that time period. (perhaps you would have to contact the parish, itself?).
Most likely, then, that the records for that time period have not survived.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Missing death certificate
« Reply #10 on: Monday 30 December 24 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Clarification- regarding my comments for Kirk Session records for Carriden:
1. the ACCOUNTS for this parish for the years you are interested in do not exist.
2. the MINUTES for Carriden do exist and I have browsed them (briefly) and do not see any mortcloth entries. The minutes deal with numerous antenuptial fornications. I would assume that mortcloth dues would be listed under ACCOUNTS (?)
3. Communion Rolls record a Mrs. James Fraser (Helen Ballentine) who was admitted by "YC" in Feb. 1863. Her attendance was recorded for Feb./63 and then again in July/66. In the two columns dated  Aug/67 and Feb/68 it looks like the word "dead" or "deceased" was entered. There are no more entries for her after that.   You could check this on the SP website.

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Re: Missing death certificate
« Reply #11 on: Monday 30 December 24 23:53 GMT (UK) »
In the church and statutory marriage records I find 5 James Fraser marriages in all of West Lothian between 1842 and 1869:
1. 1842 to Elizabeth Simpson in Bo'Ness
2. 1845 to Marion Black in Whitburn
3. 1858 to Margaret Nimmo in Linlithgow Burgh
4. 1862 to Helen Ballantine in Carriden
5. 1869 to Catherine Balfour in Carriden.

I assume these are 2 different James Frasers?

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Re: Missing death certificate
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 31 December 24 10:13 GMT (UK) »
I think they are the marriages of three different James Frasers:
- Elizabeth Simpson and Margaret Nimmo
- Marion Black
- Helen Ballantine and Catherine Balfour. Also married Mary Hunter/Stein in 1883.

Helen Ballantine died in January 1868 (aged 26) of TB so that would match with what you found in the Communion Rolls records. On her death certificate it states she was ill for 12 months. I also found a Helen Ballantine (age 18) on the 1861 census living in the household of Janet Balfour. Helen is listed as a niece. Not sure if this is the same one.

I'll have a look at the record you found. Appreciate the help.

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Re: Missing death certificate
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 March 25 12:27 GMT (UK) »
Is it possible she didn't die in Scotland and therefore her death is registered elsewhere? 
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