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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #36 on: Monday 06 January 25 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I’ve just opened several records on it.

And no additional charges!!!

Romilly 😊

Glad you can access it now. It will be the last census to be released for a long while as the 1931 census does not survive and 1941 was never taken due to the war.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #37 on: Monday 06 January 25 14:33 GMT (UK) »
It's hit and miss, you just have to keep going back to the search results and try again.
It has thrown up a bit of a mystery for me regarding my father born 1903.

He was in his  late 40s when I was born. 😉

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #38 on: Monday 06 January 25 14:35 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if the 1931 Census will end up being a bit like the Army WW1 Records, that we’re all meant to have been destroyed in a fire? A lot of them are available, although obviously a lot were destroyed.

Wouldn’t it be amazing if bits of the 1931 survived and might yet turn up?

Romilly  :o
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Wilson, Warren, Dulston, Hooper, Duffin, Petty, Rees, Davies, Williams, Newman, Dyer, Hamilton, Edmeads, Pattenden.

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #39 on: Monday 06 January 25 15:21 GMT (UK) »
Yes you never know with the 1931 census. I know that some parts of the 1841 census and the 1861 census have not survived such as 1841 Paddington, parts of Lambeth and St Luke, and 1861 Belgravia plus various streets across London. 1851 has some missing areas such as Felsted in Essex. It is estimated that about 5% of the 1861 census is missing.
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LONDON, Coombs, Roberts, Auber, Helsdon, Fradine, Morin, Goodacre
DORSET Coombs, Munday
NORFOLK Helsdon, Riches, Harbord, Budery
KENT Roberts, Goodacre
SUSSEX Walder, Boniface, Dinnage, Standen, Lee, Botten, Wickham, Jupp
SUFFOLK Titshall, Frost, Fairweather, Mayhew, Archer, Eade, Scarfe
DURHAM Stewart, Musgrave, Wilson, Forster
SCOTLAND Stewart in Selkirk
USA Musgrave, Saix
ESSEX Cornwell, Stock, Quilter, Lawrence, Whale, Clift
OXON Edgington, Smith, Inkpen, Snell, Batten, Brain


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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #40 on: Tuesday 07 January 25 11:21 GMT (UK) »
It's arrived on Ancestry, got email at 8.01 this morning.
I wonder if they did their own transcriptions or bought the same ones as FindMyPast

Both have my grandfather working for an employer based in Goring on Merchamyts. How they can both make this same gobbledegook word out of Thames, I can't imagine
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #41 on: Tuesday 07 January 25 11:46 GMT (UK) »
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I wonder if they did their own transcriptions or bought the same ones as FindMyPast

see reply #24 they bought Findmypasts, that why they could release so quick after FindMyPast's 3 year exclusivity deal (remember FindMyPast released 6 Jan 2022).
https://www.whodoyouthinkyouaremagazine.com/news/1921-census-ancestry

That is unfortunate due to the transcription errors scattered across names, addresses, birthplaces, occupations and employers, it would have been good to have an independent version.
Regarding the errors (I agree) the transcribers in India did not have access to the full page so could not see the context and others we see, and it may have been rushed after delays due to COVID. They were also unfamiliar with the geography.
Some/most of the transcription errors are inexcusable, especially if take time and zoom in or use Google to find that the birthplace is a village. Farms and houses in small Villages have been forced into street/town fields. But we can also blame our ancestors for mispellings, putting things in the wrong columns, birth village & county wrong way round and poor handwriting, especially for where they worked. I've submitted hundreds of corrections, sometimes several for very family member having initially found if the same error was in multiple children they didn't use common sense, look at and fix too. Prior knowledge from eg 1911 often assists with poor handwriting for birthplaces.

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/about/freedom-of-information/information-requests/1921-census-transcription-accuracy/

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How they can both make this same gobbledegook word out of Thames, I can't imagine
Can you remember if you submitted a correction to FindMyPast & they approved and changed their index?

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #42 on: Tuesday 07 January 25 11:52 GMT (UK) »
It's arrived on Ancestry, got email at 8.01 this morning.
I wonder if they did their own transcriptions or bought the same ones as FindMyPast

Both have my grandfather working for an employer based in Goring on Merchamyts. How they can both make this same gobbledegook word out of Thames, I can't imagine

From what I've read they are using the FindMyPast transcriptions and lots of posts in various forums pointing out identical errors on both sites. 

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #43 on: Tuesday 07 January 25 11:59 GMT (UK) »
They don't seem to be using the full transcription they have spent money on.

In the same record I mentioned in an earlier post, for Grandmas's pob, Grampy wrote Upper Norwood, London, and for one of my uncle's pob he wrote Nunhead SE, London. These places are shown in full on FindMyPast, or at least an attempt has been made! But Ancestry just shows London for both. No mention whatever of the district for either birth.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #44 on: Tuesday 07 January 25 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Just looked back at some corrections sent to FindMyPast during the free weekend last November which have been accepted.  They have got in a twist with some industrial occupations.

Fruit Greasing = Fruit Preserving
Miner Dayseller = Miner dattller    (properly dataller)
Thurcroft Coke and sons = Thurcroft Coke Ovens

This had one correct word out of six:
Service Secretary Weslegan Metholist Nurssiony South
corrected to:
Medical Secretary Wesleyan Methodist Missionary Society