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Offline GailB

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1921 Census
« on: Friday 27 December 24 03:35 GMT (UK) »
Just saw a post from Ancestry on Facebook that said something exciting is coming to Ancestry. It was a 1920s typeface and fashion. So I am guessing the 1921 Census is coming. I just searched for it and found that it should be available on Ancestry in the first quarter of 2025.
Armitage, Atherton, Barton, Beck, Bradshaw, Brumfitt, Chetwin, Conalty, Connolly, Connor(s), Davidson, Hilton, Hoey, Johnson, Jones, Knight, Lester, McDonald, Molyneux, Morris, Pownall, Rushton, Spark, Stanley, Tunstall, Welsby, West, Wharton, Williams, Wilson, Windridge, Windstandley

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 December 24 11:05 GMT (UK) »
Brilliant news
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #2 on: Friday 27 December 24 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Very good news!
Allan, Bell, Bolam, Bollum, Burrell, Campbell, Colthard, Conroy, Harrison, Howey, Keeney , Keough, Kirkup, Muldoon, Rooney, Storey, Valentine, Weatherson, Weatherstone (Nthland)
Ford, Aynsley, Lewis, Brown, Myers (Durham)
Green, Dillon, Drain, Cox, Muldoon (Lanark)

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #3 on: Friday 27 December 24 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Hope it's so. It'd be interesting for one or two slightly mislaid people.
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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 29 December 24 11:13 GMT (UK) »
This was in an Ancestry communication this morning. I would strongly hazard that the release date is 7th January!!!! :)

"This coming year is going to be a landmark one. A brand-new collection will be launched on 7th January. While we can’t share the details just yet, we can say that it will be invaluable for those of you researching English and Welsh records. We know a lot of our members have been waiting for this one - and we’re so glad we can shortly share it with you."

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 29 December 24 11:24 GMT (UK) »
 FindMyPast had the exclusive rights to publish the 1921 on their website and this ends on 31 December 2024 so, theoretically, Ancestry (or other sites) could publish online at 0.1am on 1st January 2025 if they had an agreement with NA.
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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #6 on: Monday 30 December 24 14:22 GMT (UK) »
Worth knowing, I've made a note of it.
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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 31 December 24 09:32 GMT (UK) »
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FindMyPast had the exclusive rights to publish the 1921 on their website and this ends on 31 December 2024 so, theoretically, Ancestry (or other sites) could publish online at 0.1am on 1st January 2025 if they had an agreement with NA.

Yes and they get all the images from TNA that Findmypast scanned but NOT the transcriptions of the pages, they have to do that themselves from scratch. Perhaps no bad thing, as Findmypast made a bad job of it, doing it in strips pre-release for data protection security to comply with the 100 year rule, so their Indian transcribers could not see an entire row + it was transcribed during COVID and perhaps rushed.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/help/articles/4415870561041
https://www.findmypast.com/help/articles/360017985098-who-owns-the-1921-census

Personally, with hindsight, I think they would have been better delaying release on 6th Jan 2022 by say a month or two, doing transcriptions (as ScotlandsPeople ended up doing) after the 100 years had expired with a full page view, and giving us accurate transcripts from the get go, instead of people having to submit loads of 'suggested corrections' that they would then approve and implement on their site.
So I'm hoping Ancestry don't rush their transcribers, and names, addresses and birthplaces match the 103½ year old written document better.
FindMyPast did do a good job with the conservation and scanning, providing high resolution images and a lot of background explanation on aspects of it. Ancestry tend to be much briefer and not detail eg missing areas of earlier census, 1939 Registration District codes etc. The FindMyPast background is freely available to all, along with the old queries and answers on here.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/1921-census-of-england-and-wales with links to lists of institutions in the 1921 Census, British armed forces overseas, occupation & employment codes, etc. if wishing to browse or search for a specific place rather than names or wondering if included.

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Re: 1921 Census
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 31 December 24 14:43 GMT (UK) »
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FindMyPast had the exclusive rights to publish the 1921 on their website and this ends on 31 December 2024 so, theoretically, Ancestry (or other sites) could publish online at 0.1am on 1st January 2025 if they had an agreement with NA.

Yes and they get all the images from TNA that Findmypast scanned but NOT the transcriptions of the pages, they have to do that themselves from scratch. Perhaps no bad thing, as Findmypast made a bad job of it, doing it in strips pre-release for data protection security to comply with the 100 year rule, so their Indian transcribers could not see an entire row + it was transcribed during COVID and perhaps rushed.
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/help/articles/4415870561041
https://www.findmypast.com/help/articles/360017985098-who-owns-the-1921-census

Personally, with hindsight, I think they would have been better delaying release on 6th Jan 2022 by say a month or two, doing transcriptions (as ScotlandsPeople ended up doing) after the 100 years had expired with a full page view, and giving us accurate transcripts from the get go, instead of people having to submit loads of 'suggested corrections' that they would then approve and implement on their site.
So I'm hoping Ancestry don't rush their transcribers, and names, addresses and birthplaces match the 103½ year old written document better.
FindMyPast did do a good job with the conservation and scanning, providing high resolution images and a lot of background explanation on aspects of it. Ancestry tend to be much briefer and not detail eg missing areas of earlier census, 1939 Registration District codes etc. The FindMyPast background is freely available to all, along with the old queries and answers on here.

https://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-records/1921-census-of-england-and-wales with links to lists of institutions in the 1921 Census, British armed forces overseas, occupation & employment codes, etc. if wishing to browse or search for a specific place rather than names or wondering if included.

Very interesting thank you. I was talking to the archivist at my local research library and they had FindMyPast in scanning various parish records and what not.  Sounded a fascinating and quite industrial process

Anyways, like the 1939 War Record, it will be nice to have the 1921 census more integrated with folk's online trees. 

I wonder what "significant developments" may be out there for the UK based genealogist, or do we have to wait until 2052 for the next leap forward!! :-\