Alfred Edwin Jones, b. 1876

[amondg]

They guess because the names "fit" but didn't check census or bmd records.

Start with your own parents. look at their marriage certificate  and see who their father' are.

You know the dates of birth.

Rootschatters will help if you would like us to.

Should you decide post their names but only if they are deceased.

[David 58]

I've researched all of my Jones family back to Edward Jones, miner, of Holywell, N. Wales, (b.1800), married Margaret Williams (1797) also of Holywell. Son Robert Jones (b.1821) of Holywell, married
Emma Williams (b.1826) of Welshpool, Montgomeryshire, in 1847 at Liverpool.
Robert's family;
Elizabeth, b. 1848 at Walsall
May Ann, b. 1850 at Bilston
Alfred, b. 1853 at Wolverhampton
Thomas, b. 1861 at Wolverhampton (my grandfather)
The family lived at Blakenhall.

Alfred followed his father Robert and became a Bricklayer along with another worker and lived at Stephen's Gate, Wolverhampton, with a family of 7;
Albert Edward (1877)
Clara (1898)
Florence Eliz. (1888)
Gertrude (1895)
Joseph (1898)
Thomas (1882)
William (1878)


Thomas emigrated to Australia in 1884, followed by father Robert in 1885.

I came across 'Alfred Edwin' somewhere on Ancestry (?), and both the given names fitted as in my previous post, as opposed to Albert Edward, ..the true documented son of Alfred Jones snr.
I wondered if 'Alfred Edwin' was in fact illegitimate, born the year before Alfred Jones and Florence Stone married, ..and kept out of documentation, because of social stigma, etc. ..Why were these 2 given second names and not other children of the family, excepting for Florence Elizabeth ??

I guess if nothing further turns up then I have to concede to a wild goose chase, ..but that is probably what geanolgy can become quite often.
There are 50,183 results for Alfred Jones in the 1881 census .. 

[sparrett]

Hi.
It is hard not to feel frustrated when these things happen but at least, by doing your research thoroughly you will have a good solid family tree.

Here is a bit of information to help you with the parents of this Alfred Edwin Read JONES.

His mother was Elizabeth nee MERRIMAN as we have discussed. According to census information, born 1838 in Wolverhampton.

Using the spelling MERRYMAN and looking at 1851, Elizabeth, a scholar is with her parents and siblings aged 14 (1838 born Wolverhampton).
Her mother is Lucy and her father William MERRYMAN , a cabman.


William died.
Deaths Mar 1857   

Merryman    William
At Wolverhampton
6b/253

               
And in 1858 Lucy remarried to Stephen READ.

In 1861 Stephen READ and wife Lucy are a family with the MERRYMAN children listed as step children to STEPHEN, head of house.

Elizabeth is not there but the others are clearly identifiable as her siblings.

She must have liked and respected her stepfather when she inserted the name READ into the name of her own son. Alfred Edwin READ JONES.

You will not be able to verify anything much unless you start with your own parents and edge backwards.

Sue 

[sparrett]

So from what you have sketched out above, you are descended from Thomas JONES, a tailor, son of Robert JONES bricklayer and wife Emma nee WILLIAMS.

He married Phoebe BIRCH and with their son came to Victoria in 1884 where further children were born.
Presumably one of these was your father (or was it a child of one of these your parent?)

 Can you clarify just where Alfred, the subject of this query fits in?

Sue

[David 58]

Thanks Sue.
Yes, I'm the son of Charles Jones, (1888) at Kew, Victoria, Aus.
Charles' father was Thomas Jones (1861) of Wolverhampton.
Thomas' brother was Alfred Jones, (1853) of Wolverhampton.

Alfred's children;
Albert Edward (1877) 
Clara (1898)
Florence Eliz. (1888)
Gertrude (1895)
Joseph (1898)
Thomas (1882)
William (1878) 

I'm not even sure that my 'Alfred Edwin Jones' even fits in to this family at all.
By the looks of it, it seems that my hunch can't be supported by the evidence. 
Maybe I got carried away with someone's tree on Ancestry whom I though may have been related. 
The trouble is, that at age 72 I'm the youngest of my line of Jones males, there is no family member alive now to shed any light on my dead relatives.