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Alfred Edwin Jones, b. 1876
« on: Tuesday 17 December 24 01:05 GMT (UK) »
Hello all  :)
I'm looking for information re; Alfred Edwin Jones, born in Wolverhampton, Jan,Feb, Mar. 1876.
Parents Alfred Jones (1853-1899), & Florence Stone (1856-1929), both of Wolverhampton, and married at St.Luke, Wolverhampton on 11 Feb, 1877.
I take it that Alfred Edwin was born out of wedlock, although his parents were soon to marry, I assume baby Alfred being named after Alfred Jones his father, and Edwin after Florence's father, Edwin Stone, who died in 1869.

I have Geneanet information and a birth registration, but scant other evidence for his birth, other than 6b, page 56, ..although an 1893 marriage to Roseannah Watkins records his parents as Alfred Jones and Florence Stone, born in Wolverhampton.
On the 1911 census, Alfred Edwin had changed his name to 'Alfred Stephen Jones', although I take this as an enumerator error.

Another son, Albert Edward was born to Alfred and Florence Jones in the last quarter 1877, at Wolverhampton. He does appear on the 1881 and 1891 census as being part of the Alfred Jones household, whereas Alfred Edwin does not. Albert married Fanny Haines in 1899.

I cannot find a 4 year old Alfred Edwin Jones in the 1881 census, although it would not be outside the realm of possibility that young Alfred may have been staying with relatives, or in Hospital, etc.

I guess what I need is further confirmation of Alfred Edwin's birth, and his whereabouts in 1881.

Have a happy Christmas everyone !!


Jones / Williams / Birch from N.Wales and Wolverhampton,..Musson / Wightman / Howard /  from Leicestershire and London
Connelly / Ord from Ireland and London

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Re: Alfred Edwin Jones, b. 1876
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 17 December 24 01:57 GMT (UK) »
GRO Index

The Alfred Edwin Jones registered Wolverhampton March quarter 1876 has mother' maiden name of MERRIMAN.

So not your Alfred Edwin Jones

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Re: Alfred Edwin Jones, b. 1876
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 17 December 24 02:06 GMT (UK) »
If your ancestor is Alfred Edwin Jones 1876 you have the wrong parents.

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Re: Alfred Edwin Jones, b. 1876
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 17 December 24 02:11 GMT (UK) »
Note the name:

Edwin Alfred Jones and Rossannah Watkins 1893 the other female being Susan Holt.

Marriages in England do not name the mother so where are you getting this from?

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What is the latest known fact you have about Alfred Edwin Jones - your relative?


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Re: Alfred Edwin Jones, b. 1876
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 17 December 24 02:57 GMT (UK) »
Oh, just this; ..
Jones / Williams / Birch from N.Wales and Wolverhampton,..Musson / Wightman / Howard /  from Leicestershire and London
Connelly / Ord from Ireland and London

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Re: Alfred Edwin Jones, b. 1876
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 17 December 24 03:37 GMT (UK) »
For Your interest.
The family JONES whose boy, named Alfred Edwin (listed as Alfred E R ) was born in 1876 can be seen on the 1881 census in Wolverhampton.

Piece   2799
Folio   42
Page number   29

Father is William and mother Elizabeth nee MERRIMAN. They lived in Coleman Street and father was a bricklayer.

Here is the birth of one of his siblings seen there.
There are others if you look on GRO including Elizabeth in 1867

JONES, MARY  ANN  mms MERRIMAN
GRO Reference: 1869
S Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON
Volume 06B  Page 460

Sue
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Re: Alfred Edwin Jones, b. 1876
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 17 December 24 03:40 GMT (UK) »
Alfred Edward R Jones married Rose Hannah Bailey 1895 reg. Wolverhampton

Children  from the 1911 census you quoted  plus GRO Index
Fanny Elizabeth Reid Jones reg. 1896 Wolverhampton mother's maiden name Bailey
Gladys Mabel reg. 1901 Wolverhampton  mmn Bailey
Muriel Edna reg. 1905 Wolverhampton     mmn Bailey
Rose Margery  reg. 1911 Wolverhampton  mmn Bailey

I'll ask again what facts do you have for YOUR ancestor because the 1911 census is for a different family.
Start with your parents names and when they were married and work backwards.

The 1901 census you quoted is also for Alfred Edward Reid Jones and his wife Rose Hannah Bailey.
The geanet tree is all wrong


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Re: Alfred Edwin Jones, b. 1876
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 17 December 24 03:43 GMT (UK) »

The geanet tree is all wrong

MMmmm... So often the sad case
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Re: Alfred Edwin Jones, b. 1876
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 19 December 24 00:46 GMT (UK) »
Ok, ..so I take it that Geaneanet is not to be taken seriously ?? 

Makes me wonder where the contributor got the information from in the first place ..
Jones / Williams / Birch from N.Wales and Wolverhampton,..Musson / Wightman / Howard /  from Leicestershire and London
Connelly / Ord from Ireland and London