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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #27 on: Monday 16 December 24 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Based on the 1914 US immigration record, I checked the 1901 & 1911 census records for any Cartys in the Lattin townlands.

No sign of John or Michael, but Patrick does appear in both.

in 1901, age 21, farm servant, on his own
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Lattin/Lattin_North/1718335/

In 1911, age 30, agricultural laborer, with wife and family
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Lattin/Lattin_North/831098/
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #28 on: Monday 16 December 24 16:05 GMT (UK) »
If I expand the search to Lattin DED (from Lattin townlands), then I also pick up
Michael Carty in 1901, unmarried groom.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Lattin/Ballynadruckilly/1718308/

And Pat Carty, 20, unmarried groom.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Lattin/Lisduff/1718340/
Separate person, or possibly a double count of the Patrick in Lattin townland?

No one extra of interest in 1911.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #29 on: Monday 16 December 24 16:23 GMT (UK) »

In 1911, age 30, agricultural laborer, with wife and family
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Lattin/Lattin_North/831098/

I can't find a matching marriage for this couple.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #30 on: Monday 16 December 24 16:59 GMT (UK) »
If we take the statement of John in 1914 that his last residence place in Ireland was Emly, then there is a possibility for him in the 1911 census - surname mistranscribed as McCorthy.
Also birthplace misunderstood as Cork. Looking at the original, I think Tipperary was intended.

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Emly/Emly_Town/831015/

John McCarthy, age 26, general servant, unmarried.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area


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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #31 on: Monday 16 December 24 17:05 GMT (UK) »
And a possibility for John in 1901 census, also Emly.
Age 15, unmarried, agricultural laborer, born Tipperary.

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Emly/Emly/1718244/
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #32 on: Monday 16 December 24 18:51 GMT (UK) »
This may be Michael in Thurles in 1911 census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Thurles_Urban/Thurles_Urban_District/828967/

But unsure - son Daniel rather than Denis

Given the unmarried Michael Carty in Lattin DED in 1901, I think it is now pretty clear that the above Michael is not the right chap.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #33 on: Monday 16 December 24 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that vital information about divorce that is why I cannot find one.  Only seen transcripts and I think it is a misprint of Denis McFarlane should be Denis McCarthy would you know where I could look for an original?

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #34 on: Monday 16 December 24 20:58 GMT (UK) »
[Boston passenger lists[  would you know where I could look for an original?

Thanking you

Pretty certain that it will be in Ancestry collections [pay]. Should also be on FamilySearch [free], but I always find their records difficult to navigate. Where did you find the transcript in the first place - does it have a link to the original?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 17 December 24 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Just going through all this to see if anything fits

This is John McCarthy in the Massachusetts, US arriving Passenger and Crew List 1820-1963

John McCarthy - Irish - Divorced - DOB - abt 1886 - Tipperary - Departure Place - Queenstown Ireland
Last Residence Place - Emly Ireland - Final Destination Place - Cambridge Massachusetts - Residence Place - USA - Arrival Date - 7 May 1914 - Arrival Place - Boston, Massachusetts - Complexion - Dark - Eye Color - Dark - Hair Color - Dark - Height - 5 feet 8 inches - Money - $14 - Ship - Franconia - Siblings - Michel McCarthy - Denis McFarlane - Friend - Denis McCarthy - Person in the Old Country Name - Michel McCarthy - Person in Old Country Residence Place - Lattin Emly - Person in Old Country Relationship - Brother - Person in US Name - Denis McFarlane - Person in US Relationship - Brother

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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYWH-HS4?view=index&action=view&cc=1923995
Line 19 than move on to the next image and again line 19.
Single not divorced.