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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #18 on: Monday 16 December 24 03:33 GMT (UK) »
Strange - I can't locate a marriage for Michael and Bridget Carty.
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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #19 on: Monday 16 December 24 06:46 GMT (UK) »
This may be Michael in Thurles in 1911 census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Thurles_Urban/Thurles_Urban_District/828967/

But unsure - son Daniel rather than Denis

Here is Bridget, Daniel and Johanna in 1901.  Bridget is the wife of a soldier. Staying with Bridget's sister who is also a soldier's wife.

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Caher/Kelly_s_Lane/1708228/


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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #20 on: Monday 16 December 24 06:51 GMT (UK) »

Here is Bridget, Daniel and Johanna in 1901.  Bridget is the wife of a soldier. Staying with Bridget's sister who is also a soldier's wife.

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Caher/Kelly_s_Lane/1708228/

But when Johanna was born in 1899, they were living in Thurles, and Michael was a laborer. Though I guess he could have had a fit of "patriotism".
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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« Reply #21 on: Monday 16 December 24 07:21 GMT (UK) »

Here is Bridget, Daniel and Johanna in 1901.  Bridget is the wife of a soldier. Staying with Bridget's sister who is also a soldier's wife.

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Caher/Kelly_s_Lane/1708228/

Here is the marriage of Johanna Carty to Daniel Brien in 1893.
What looks to be the marriage of Bridget Carty is further down the same page,  except it is to a Michael BRIEN, brother of Daniel. 

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10608/5865022.pdf

This is making my head sore.  But I am starting to doubt that Michael in Thurles is the correct chap.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area


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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #22 on: Monday 16 December 24 07:26 GMT (UK) »
I have my doubts, as you did that it was the correct Michael but wanted to show how they appeared later.

I have found a Dinis, a son to a Michael and Bridget here

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QYK7-HG6Z

This Michael says he is 40, rather than 36 or 37.   and in  Aghnameadle T/L which a is away a bit from  Lattin etc.

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #23 on: Monday 16 December 24 07:39 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone for your help thank you for your time

Many thanks

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #24 on: Monday 16 December 24 07:46 GMT (UK) »
We haven't finished yet......'we're still going round the traps' as they say.

Does any of what we have found so far ring any bells?

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #25 on: Monday 16 December 24 09:49 GMT (UK) »
Just going through all this to see if anything fits

This is John McCarthy in the Massachusetts, US arriving Passenger and Crew List 1820-1963

John McCarthy - Irish - Divorced - DOB - abt 1886 - Tipperary - Departure Place - Queenstown Ireland
Last Residence Place - Emly Ireland - Final Destination Place - Cambridge Massachusetts - Residence Place - USA - Arrival Date - 7 May 1914 - Arrival Place - Boston, Massachusetts - Complexion - Dark - Eye Color - Dark - Hair Color - Dark - Height - 5 feet 8 inches - Money - $14 - Ship - Franconia - Siblings - Michel McCarthy - Denis McFarlane - Friend - Denis McCarthy - Person in the Old Country Name - Michel McCarthy - Person in Old Country Residence Place - Lattin Emly - Person in Old Country Relationship - Brother - Person in US Name - Denis McFarlane - Person in US Relationship - Brother

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Re: Denis Carty
« Reply #26 on: Monday 16 December 24 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Just going through all this to see if anything fits

This is John McCarthy in the Massachusetts, US arriving Passenger and Crew List 1820-1963

John McCarthy - Irish - Divorced

Divorced? Not possible. No divorce in Ireland in 1914!
[Absent an Act of Parliament, so functionally impossible].
And brother Denis McFarlane??

OP - Are you relying on a transcript, or have you checked the original?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area