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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 12 December 24 21:51 GMT (UK) »
Griffith's Valuation also shows another Thomas Kelly, in the nearby townland of Aghadavoyle.
Might be easy to confuse these two.
Link for Aghadavoyle townland.

https://www.townlands.ie/armagh/orior-upper/killevy-upper-orior-portion/jonesborough/aghadavoyle/#borders
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 12 December 24 22:06 GMT (UK) »
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Griffith's Valuation also shows another Thomas Kelly, in the nearby townland of Aghadavoyle

He had wife Anne Morgan per 6 baptisms Dromintee R.C. 1857-1870 (they have spelt it Adavoil).Could well be a son and the Anne who registered the 1894 death.
Valuation Revisions on PRONI/Ancestry might reveal who took over the house after his death.

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 12 December 24 22:24 GMT (UK) »
No Kelly shown in Tythe valuation for Aghayalloge. No obvious baptisms at all with father Thomas Kelly in Upper Killeavy Catholic parish records in 1830-1850 period. Makes me suspect the family moved there are some point after children born? [Excluding a solitary 1843 baptism with address Meigh]

OP - what was the family's religion?
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 12 December 24 22:42 GMT (UK) »
No Kelly shown in Tythe valuation for Aghayalloge. No obvious baptisms at all with father Thomas Kelly in Upper Killeavy Catholic parish records in 1830-1850 period. Makes me suspect the family moved there are some point after children born? [Excluding a solitary 1843 baptism with address Meigh]

OP - what was the family's religion?

The family were Roman Catholic. And I have seen the 1843 Meigh baptism as well and thought it could be connected, but not enough info to say, really!
Noble, Bielby, Vipond - Scarborough/Whitby
Goodfellow - Shaftesbury/Cann, Dorset
Smyth, Kelly, Fearon, McAteer, Hughes - Armagh/Down


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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #13 on: Friday 13 December 24 00:36 GMT (UK) »
OP - I believe this is your woman [civil level of probability  :) ]

Mary Kelly, died 2-Feb-1875, married, age 60, death registered by Thomas Kelly. Correct location (with spelling variation).
I guessed her name was Mary from names of children born to suspected/probable son Michael & wife Anne Finnegan in Aghayalloge in 1860s/70s

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1875/020638/7240908.pdf
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #14 on: Friday 13 December 24 00:45 GMT (UK) »
There are some possibilities for children of Thomas Kelly with wife Mary Campbell in the adjacent parish of Newry in 1830s/40s. Not convinced they are a good "fit" though.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #15 on: Friday 13 December 24 13:08 GMT (UK) »
OP - I believe this is your woman [civil level of probability  :) ]

Mary Kelly, died 2-Feb-1875, married, age 60, death registered by Thomas Kelly. Correct location (with spelling variation).
I guessed her name was Mary from names of children born to suspected/probable son Michael & wife Anne Finnegan in Aghayalloge in 1860s/70s

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1875/020638/7240908.pdf

Oh gosh thank you for this great find! It’s overwhelmingly  likely to be her. I hadn’t come across Thomas Kelly and Anne Finnegan or their children either - so definitely worth a look up. Thank you so much!
Noble, Bielby, Vipond - Scarborough/Whitby
Goodfellow - Shaftesbury/Cann, Dorset
Smyth, Kelly, Fearon, McAteer, Hughes - Armagh/Down

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #16 on: Friday 13 December 24 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Birth registration for Thomas Kelly, 4th February, 1864 - parents Michael Kelly and Ann Finnegan, in Aghayalloge.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1864/03630/2340394.pdf

Multiple later children for this couple into 1870s.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #17 on: Friday 13 December 24 19:36 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if I can line up any of these names. I'm assuming they may be siblings of Bridget/other children of Thomas and Mary. These are the only other related Kelly names I have, from Bridget Kelly (Fearon)'s children's baptisms.

1856: Peter Kelly and Pat Rice - witness at wedding of Bridget Kelly to Matthew Fearon (Dromintee 21 Oct 1856)

1857: Peter Kelly and Eliza McArdle sponsors at daughter Mary Fearon's baptism (Dromintee 25 Jul 1857)

1869: Michael Kelly and Bridget Kelly sponsors at son Edward Fearon's baptism (Meigh 1 Nov 1869)

1875: Thomas Kelly and Elizabeth Kelly of Aughnalloy sponsors at son Michael Feron's baptism (Aughyalloge 25 May 1875)


Michael Kelly who marries Ann Finnegan also has a Thomas Kelly listed as the witness for his daughter Betty Kelly's birth (Aghayalloge, 22 Aug 1865), which could be a brother or father. Though my Thomas Kelly is the witness to his granddaughter Catherine Fearon's birth in 1864 and is listed as "grandfather", but the Thomas Kelly witness at Betty Kelly's birth isn't listed as such - still could be him though.
Noble, Bielby, Vipond - Scarborough/Whitby
Goodfellow - Shaftesbury/Cann, Dorset
Smyth, Kelly, Fearon, McAteer, Hughes - Armagh/Down