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Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« on: Thursday 12 December 24 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

Struggling here. I have a man named Thomas Kelly of Aghayalloge, Upper Killeavy, Co Armagh.
He dies on 27 May 1894 and according to his death certificate is age 67 (b. circa 1827) and was a widow and farmer of Aghayalloge. Witness was Anne Kelly, present at death, also of Aghayalloge (relationship unknown.)

I am looking for this man's wife - as she was already deceased by the time he died in 1894.
I don't know his wife's first name, or any other information at all, and have struggled to find anything by searching manually. Can anyone find a death certificate between 1840 and 1894 of a Mrs Kelly in Aghayalloge?

All I know is they have one confirmed daughter - Bridget or Biddy Kelly, born circa 1840. She did live in Aghayalloge as well but would have gone by her married name of McAteer after 1856. If there's no records in Aghayalloge then i'll have to widen the search.

Many thanks
Ali



Noble, Bielby, Vipond - Scarborough/Whitby
Goodfellow - Shaftesbury/Cann, Dorset
Smyth, Kelly, Fearon, McAteer, Hughes - Armagh/Down

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 12 December 24 21:07 GMT (UK) »
OP - you are off with regard to time range for death registration. You say you are looking in time range from 1840 to 1894. But there were no death registrations before 1864.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 12 December 24 21:08 GMT (UK) »
Death certs commence 1864, so if she died 1840-63 there may be no record whatsoever depending on her religious denomination and burial place (likely to only exist if Church of Ireland with the registers offline)

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 12 December 24 21:11 GMT (UK) »
OP - Your data on Thomas Kelly can't be accurate. Born ca. 1827, but married and having children by 1840? That is when he would have been aged 13!

So either he was older than stated at death, or something else is off.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area


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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 12 December 24 21:13 GMT (UK) »
Link for death registration of Thomas Kelly, 27 May 1894, Newry SRD.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1894/05970/4697223.pdf

Note - he was a widower, not a widow!
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 12 December 24 21:20 GMT (UK) »
OP - Your data on Thomas Kelly can't be accurate. Born ca. 1827, but married and having children by 1840? That is when he would have been aged 13!

Yes sorry forgot to mention I was aware no records prior to 1864 would be available, so if she died before then i'll never know.

And I did assume his age was a bit off, but it's exceptionally common in my experience for the age given on death certificate to be mildly to wildly incorrect. I do know from other records such as grandchildren's birth/baptism record that Thomas Kelly, grandfather, of Aghayalloge is listed as early as 1864, so I at least know that information about him.
Noble, Bielby, Vipond - Scarborough/Whitby
Goodfellow - Shaftesbury/Cann, Dorset
Smyth, Kelly, Fearon, McAteer, Hughes - Armagh/Down

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 12 December 24 21:39 GMT (UK) »
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grandchildren's birth/baptism record

Where, Killeavy Upper R.C.? https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0198

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Re: Finding Mrs Kelly's death cert - Aghayalloge, Killeavy
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 12 December 24 21:46 GMT (UK) »
Griffith's Valuation, printed 1864, has Thomas Kelly holding 3-0-0 A-R-P and a 10s house in Aghayalloge. So he was more of a cottier than a farmer (vide his death registration).
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area