Florence Gerrell, supposedly born in Byker c1892

[fiddlerslass]

A ships captain called Andrew Renwick!


SERIOUS CHASE AGAINST A CAPTAIN. Andrew Renwick, master of the Elizabeth and Ann (Ls.), of this port, was charged with stealing a tarpaulin, of the value of £l, the property of the Great Eastern Railway Company. Mr. Oakley prosecuted for the Company B ...
Published: Saturday 18 March 1882
Newspaper: Lowestoft Journal
County: Suffolk, England

[Silverhawk]

Find my past has 3 merchant navy records for an Andrew Renwick. Unfortunately I no longer have a subscription so can't see if any are captains.

The record in the "Merchant Navy Crew Lists 1861-1913" section is for an Andrew Renwick born in Sunderland c1845. He's a carpenter on the vessel Khalif, however the dates are August to November 1891. Louisa said on the '91 census she was a widow at that point.

In the "Britain, Merchant Seamen, 1835-1857" section, there's a 21 year old Andrew Renwick from Newcastle. The document has boxes for voyages from 1853 to 1857. In the 1853 box it says:
Out
S 10 - 12
British Empress
Shields

1854 is blank, 1855 says:
Out
AB 3 . 7
Newcastle
of N'Castle

Home
AB 21 . 6
Margaret + Ann
N. Shields

1856 says:
Home
AB 10 - 9
Hotspur
N'Castle
J Akyab 14/3
Dis Antwerp 11/8 (this number is written on the dividing line and hard to read)
____
AB 14 - 10
Newcastle
Newcastle
D. Akyab 11/3


The last document is from even earlier, 1845, and just has a list of names and register ticket numbers. There's four Renwicks that have been deliberately grouped together seperate from the rest of the list and headed "Renwick + Renwick"

530147 Renwick Wm Newcastle
558923 Renwick Wm N'castle
374259 Renwick Jas St Helens
352764 Renwick Andw N'castle

Don't know if any of that is of help at all, but there you go.

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A ships captain called Andrew Renwick!


SERIOUS CHASE AGAINST A CAPTAIN. Andrew Renwick, master of the Elizabeth and Ann (Ls.), of this port, was charged with stealing a tarpaulin, of the value of £l, the property of the Great Eastern Railway Company. Mr. Oakley prosecuted for the Company B ...
Published: Saturday 18 March 1882
Newspaper: Lowestoft Journal
County: Suffolk, England

Interesting, Lowestoft comes up again.

[JenB]

Andrew Renwick, master of the Elizabeth and Ann (Ls.)

There many references to the arrivals and departures of the 'Elizabeth and Ann' under Captain Renwick in the newspapers until about 1883 when they cease as far as I can see.

Added:  the earliest newspaper reference I can find is in 1876. he seems to have been sailing mostly up and down the east coast of England and Scotland but sometimes further afield.

[Silverhawk]

There many references to the arrivals and departures of the 'Elizabeth and Ann' under Captain Renwick in the newspapers until about 1883 when they cease as far as I can see.

There's a record on Ancestry for the death at sea of an Andrew Renwick in 1883. Steamer vessel Said, owned by Adophus P. Harrison. Entry says "Sailed from the Tyne coal-laden for London + not since heard of". It's dated 11 Dec 1883 and Andrew is one of 18 presumed deaths, age 50. However he's not the captain of the ship, only a "2nd Engr". The ship's master is William T. Chicken.

Which site are you using for newspaper searches? I'm using FindMyPast, but am not getting any results like that.

[softly softly]

Info only based on various posts.

1841 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7WF-FNN

Possible 1860 marriage

Marriages Dec 1860   
RENWICK    Andrew                Gateshead    10a   718   
Wallace    Alice Smith        Gateshead    10a   718    

1861 census

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7F9-VD1

Birth & Deaths

RENWICK, MARY  ALICE     mmn WALLACE 
GRO Reference: 1867  S Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 657

RENWICK, MARY  ALICE     aged 0 
GRO Reference: 1867  S Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 407

RENWICK, ALICE  SMITH     aged 33 
GRO Reference: 1867  S Quarter in GATESHEAD  Volume 10A  Page 387

Does not seem to appear 1871/81 census.

SS

Added  --The birth image of Mary Alice records Andrew's occupation now as "Engine Fitter"

[mckha489]

However he's not the captain of the ship, only a "2nd Engr". The ship's master is William T. Chicken.

Which would fit if he was demoted (and laid off) following the charge of stealing a tarpaulin in 1882

[JenB]

However he's not the captain of the ship, only a "2nd Engr". The ship's master is William T. Chicken.

Which would fit if he was demoted (and laid off) following the charge of stealing a tarpaulin in 1882

The charge was dismissed. They did not believe he had ‘guilty intent’.

He was still sailing as captain of the Elizabeth and Ann until at least May 1883 according to newspaper reports.

[mckha489]

However he's not the captain of the ship, only a "2nd Engr". The ship's master is William T. Chicken.

Which would fit if he was demoted (and laid off) following the charge of stealing a tarpaulin in 1882

The charge was dismissed. They did not believe he had ‘guilty intent’.

He was still sailing as captain of the Elizabeth and Ann until at least May 1883 according to newspaper reports.

Oh, I couldn’t see an entry for the Elizabeth and Ann after 1882.
Will look again!

[mckha489]

25 th July 1883. Elizabeth & Ann stranded at Johnhaven. Captain Renwick.

November 1883, the captain of the Elizabeth and Ann of Newcastle is Tullly