Help with a disappeared family

[rogerb]

I wonder if anyone has any ideas on this family that I have been coming back to year after year.

In Nov 1881 Thomas Clark married Clara Louisa Butcher (b.1860) in Brighton.  Thomas's birthdate is given as about 1860 on the marriage record.

Clara has a traceable census record from 1861-1881 in Brighton with parents Robert and Mary.

But I cannot seem to find her after the marriage.

Regarding Thomas Clark, I can't seem to find any suitable candidates for him in the previous censuses.  Doesn't seem to have come from Brighton.  His father is given as Charles on the marriage record but that hasn't really helped me.

One new piece of info that I have recently discovered which has led me to this request is that Clara had a daughter in 1880 called Alice Maud Mary Butcher (no father named).  Alice is shown in the 1881 census as Clara's sister, but I have never been able to trace her either.

But now knowing that she is Clara's daughter, I wonder if she may have been adopted by Clara and her new husband and maybe known by the surname Clark.

But I still haven't had any luck.

Has anyone got any ideas or maybe a fresh way of looking at it?

Roger

[rosie99]

What are the occupations of Thomas and his father Charles

[rosie99]

One new piece of info that I have recently discovered which has led me to this request is that Clara had a daughter in 1880 called Alice Maud Mary Butcher (no father named).  Alice is shown in the 1881 census as Clara's sister, but I have never been able to trace her either.

There is an Alice M Clark age 11 born Brighton, adopted daughter of Jane E Elliott of 35, Simpsons Road, Bromley, Kent in 1891.  RG12/628 f66 p7

[amondg]

Thomas was listed as a Poulterer on the marriage certificate, his father Charles a bricklayer Deceased

Date 13 November 1881
Ref ancestry

[rosie99]

Thomas was listed as a Poulterer on the marriage certificate, his father Charles a bricklayer Deceased

Date 13 November 1881
Ref ancestry

Thank you 

[amondg]

Baptisms St John's Brighton

Rosetta Mary Clarke bap 8 April 1888  born 22 August 1883
*Alice Maud Mary Clarke bap 8 April 1888  born 21 April 1880

Father Thomas Clarke - Fishmonger
Mother Clara

address 40 Cumberland Place.

[amondg]

Then to Marylebone - St Andrew

Rosetta bap 12 July 1885
Thomas Alfred bap 12 July 1885

Parents Thomas and Clara Clark  -- Father Poulterer.
address 11 Green Street

GRO Index
Thomas Alfred Clark reg. 1885 St Pancras mother's maiden name Butcher

Possible Rosetta Clark 1883 reg Westminster mother's maiden name Butcher

Is Rosetta the same as Rosetta Mary bap. again 1888?

Did they emmigrate?

[rogerb]

Thanks - some good options there.  Particularly the birth date for Alice Maud Mary Clarke.  21 Apr 1880.

The birth date of Alice Maud Mary Butcher is 24 Apr 1880.

Also, Rosetta is also the name of one of Clara's sisters.

And there is obviously the Poulterer link.

[amondg]

3 days difference in birth date is nothing especially when people could not read and write.