Author Topic: Abraham Smith & Amy Loveridge  (Read 1054 times)

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Re: Abraham Smith & Amy Loveridge
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 17:04 GMT (UK) »
Glad you sorted that Neale. I didn’t have time to to post.

Pocks98,
Do you know anything of Amy - her birth/census/death?

Where do you have Enoch in later records?
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Re: Abraham Smith & Amy Loveridge
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 December 24 13:02 GMT (UK) »
Amy - just that she was a Loveridge. I imagine from the same Loveridge family Abraham descends from as well. The descendants of Abraham & Amy know other descendants of Abraham's relatives quite well & have pictures of their ancestors together so yep I think this one definitely coroborates for sure.

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Re: Abraham Smith & Amy Loveridge
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 December 24 13:07 GMT (UK) »
Spot on Neale, great finds

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Re: Abraham Smith & Amy Loveridge
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 December 24 13:09 GMT (UK) »
Enoch, we have in later records using the name Smith, which was Naomi's maiden name, so for whatever reason, Abraham & Enoch stopped using the names Parker/Draper & chose Smith.


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Re: Abraham Smith & Amy Loveridge
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 17 December 24 15:12 GMT (UK) »
Enoch, we have in later records using the name Smith, which was Naomi's maiden name, so for whatever reason, Abraham & Enoch stopped using the names Parker/Draper & chose Smith.

Spencer (1824-1901) and Ellick (Alexander)(1841-1896) sons of William Draper and Mary Cotchin, stop using Draper and start using Smith in the later part of the 1800s. Both deaths are registered as Smith.

William's parents were another William Draper and an Eleanor who I believe to be the daughter of Medrick/Madrack/Madereck Smith and Mary/Marjeny (surname unknown) but possibly a Cooper according to Richard Edmund's "Early British Gypsy Families Volume 3 Smith".

There is a story that the Draper name stopped being used after "an incident with a gamekeeper".

The mother of Ellick's first wife Hannah Fletcher (1838-?) marriage October 1860 Brenchley Kent - was Mary Loveridge.
Gypsy DRAPERs, children of Billy and Mary - Ellen,Darnity,Spencer,Billy Jnr,Kisby,Ellick
Descendants of Fred and Esther (Garrett) WHITLOCK - Wavendon, Woburn Sands area
Descendants of George and Barbara (Willis) SUTTON - Earls Barton and Nether Heyford
BISSELL - Hanslope, New Bradwell, Bucks and Aston, Birmingham area
Lavinia DRAPER died 1840 Cranfield
Gypsies in the Bow Brickhill and Beds/Bucks border areas