Author Topic: Alma Blanche Lukey / Alma Blanche Kelly b1867 - Death record help  (Read 1789 times)

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Re: Alma Blanche Lukey / Alma Blanche Kelly b1867 - Death record help
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 14:55 GMT (UK) »
There are WW1 army service/pension records for a William Kelley born Earlestown.
Could he be relevant?
Attested Army Service Corps at Warrington in 1914
Reg number 029239
Age 19 / 19 yrs 4 months
Occupation Driver

Next of kin, mother Alma Cross, 2 Hunsworth? Yard, Newton le Willows

There is this death
March 1920 Warrington 8c 198
Cross, Alma   
Age 46   

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Re: Alma Blanche Lukey / Alma Blanche Kelly b1867 - Death record help
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 15:37 GMT (UK) »
Thanks :)

In 1911 Alma was living at 117 Crow Lane, (West) Earlestown.

I have not seen Hunsworth Yard before for any of the family, although given the news article from 1906 states that the NSPCC inspector had visited Alma at three different houses within a ~6 month window, anything is possible at this point!

I must have overlooked this in the past or not found a record, but I am missing a child from my tree who must have passed in infancy (1911 states 9 children total, 7 alive... I have 8 children in my tree)!  There might be a clue there as given I still cant find a burial record for either Patrick or Alma, there maybe one for one or both dead children.

William is listed as living with her, 18 (so in 1914 would be ~21) and is documented as being a Coal Miner / Pony Driver.  Will have to double-check on William as I may have only got his DOB year from a census rather than GRO.  I will check on that record though as I only have records 1901 and 1911 for him and nothing else!

Whoever filled this 1911, also noted down all of the living children that were living elsewhere and as such crossed out.  One thing I note is, that James Kelly, son documented as a soldier.

I can't find a marriage that immediately jumps out, however, it would not be the first time ive seen a sudden surname change to try and go into hiding.
Harding/Jones/Walters/Coates in Stoke on Trent
Calderbank/Baxendale/Swift/Massey in Chorley and Standish

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Re: Alma Blanche Lukey / Alma Blanche Kelly b1867 - Death record help
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 15:53 GMT (UK) »
To be honest, I'm not sure if the name of that yard is right (or if I've got it right!)

There's a burial at Newton le Willows Cemetery, 22 August 1903
Patrick Kelly, age 49 years
Register number 1723 
 
Also buried at that cemetery was Alma Cross, 8 March 1920.
Age 46 years
Register number 4749
http://crem.oltps.sthelens.gov.uk/

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Re: Alma Blanche Lukey / Alma Blanche Kelly b1867 - Death record help
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 16:22 GMT (UK) »
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Hunsworth? Yard

Possibly a misheard Unsworths Yard
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Re: Alma Blanche Lukey / Alma Blanche Kelly b1867 - Death record help
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 17:13 GMT (UK) »
SplanK, are you wanting any details about James Kelly c1894

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Re: Alma Blanche Lukey / Alma Blanche Kelly b1867 - Death record help
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Possibly a misheard Unsworths Yard

Good call!

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Re: Alma Blanche Lukey / Alma Blanche Kelly b1867 - Death record help
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 18:46 GMT (UK) »
SplanK, are you wanting any details about James Kelly c1894

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Looking at this record on my tree, I have the bases covered (BMD + FaG)....   looks like he married Teresa Ann Longshaw in 1922..... but if you have found anything else than I would appreciate the pointers :)
Harding/Jones/Walters/Coates in Stoke on Trent
Calderbank/Baxendale/Swift/Massey in Chorley and Standish

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Re: Alma Blanche Lukey / Alma Blanche Kelly b1867 - Death record help
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Ok.

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Re: Alma Blanche Lukey / Alma Blanche Kelly b1867 - Death record help
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 18:50 GMT (UK) »
To be honest, I'm not sure if the name of that yard is right (or if I've got it right!)

There's a burial at Newton le Willows Cemetery, 22 August 1903
Patrick Kelly, age 49 years
Register number 1723 
 
Also buried at that cemetery was Alma Cross, 8 March 1920.
Age 46 years
Register number 4749
http://crem.oltps.sthelens.gov.uk/

aah - see I was looking at Warrington Burial index rather than anywhere else!  Thanks!

That indeed looks like 'our' Patrick for sure - dates line up with his death cert and very interesting that that this Alma Cross has also appeared.

Only downside is that Alma B Lukey was born ~1866 making her around 54 in 1920 BUT worth digging into further as it would seem
Harding/Jones/Walters/Coates in Stoke on Trent
Calderbank/Baxendale/Swift/Massey in Chorley and Standish