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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 02 December 24 10:00 GMT (UK) »
On Julius's  marriage record it says Charles was a soldier which fits with the death in Aden and Julius going to a school for army children. Julius was baptised on the 27th Dec 1840, but not registered until Q2 1841. He was 6 months on the 1841 census, 6 years 4 months when he was admitted to school - April 1847. Discharged 21 Dec 1854. I wonder if that was his 14th birthday?
Was Charles a wine cooper who joined the army sometime before 1841. The seaman could be an error by the vicar or when Caroline took him to be baptised, the vicar asked "Where's the father" and she said he was away overseas. I.e a soldier serving overseas, which the vicar misheard or misunderstood thinking he was at sea and took it that he was a seaman.
Maybe Charles isn't Julius's father.
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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 02 December 24 10:02 GMT (UK) »
The birth entry showed that she was (unusually) born in a hospital and that Charles' occupation was a wine cooper, so the 'seaman' entry was probably a mistake, although neither fact is of use to me!

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As I said before - a cooper made barrels, so a wine cooper made wine barrels.
Someone who worked with wood; which is why I said a specialised carpenter. ;)
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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 02 December 24 10:04 GMT (UK) »
The Charles Corker buried in Aden in 1847 (30th May) was aged 34 and a private in the 2nd regiment Bombay European Light Infantry.

Info here about the regiment

https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/106th-regiment-foot-bombay-light-infantry#:~:text=After%20the%20Mutiny%2C%20the%202nd,precedence%20as%20the%20106th%20Foot.
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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 02 December 24 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all the information, although my only interest is whether Louisa was John Hutson's illegitimate son. I think that is now unlikely and, until I can show that one of her descendants has haemophilia, may never be proved (unless I can show that Charles was out of the country for the nine months before her birth).

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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 02 December 24 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Charles Corker seems to be in a regiment of the East India company army. Perhaps there are records of their musters and embarkation lists on line, which might indicate whether he was abroad or in England when Louisa was conceived
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Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 12:41 GMT (UK) »
Whether Louisa was John's son or not, she hasn't left any descendants who can be shown to be haemophiliacs. I have now traced all the males who could be (by the laws of genetic inheritance) and they all died 'normally' - it's surprising how many of her descendants didn't marry or didn't have children. Louise's eldest son is a possible, but unlikely, exception. His descendants didn't carry the gene but I can't find his death.

Edwin Alfred Bailey (b1867 Bethnal Green) m Mary Thurza Fairhead in 1895. They are together in 1901 in Hornsey and he appears on the electoral roll there in 1906, but then disappears (although she claims to be 'married' in 1911 and is alone on an 1918 electoral roll). It would be good to establish how he died to finish the puzzle.

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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 12:52 GMT (UK) »
Do you have an exact dob for Edwin.

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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 03 December 24 13:06 GMT (UK) »
His baptisms gives 5 Apr 1867 but I haven't seen his birth certificate. I did do a search of deaths with that date and only came up with a woman.
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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 05 December 24 00:00 GMT (UK) »

Edwin Alfred Bailey (b1867 Bethnal Green) m Mary Thurza Fairhead in 1895.

They are together in 1901 in Hornsey and he appears on the electoral roll there in 1906, but then disappears (although she claims to be 'married' in 1911 and is alone on an 1918 electoral roll).

It would be good to establish how he died to finish the puzzle.


London Electoral Register
Year 1921
8 Graham Mansion, Hackney
Mary Thriza Bailey
Have you looked at the 1921 census to see if she’s widowed?
Do you have her 1930 death certificate?

I see on his m/c Edwin’s occupation is a clerk

Could this be him  :-\ a long shot - no  middle name, no age given, there’s a mark in column headed single or unaccompanied by husband or wife

Edwin Bailey occ clerk
Departure 19 Aug 1910
Departure Port   England
Ship Name   Corinthic
Destination Port   Wellington, New Zealand






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