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Offline Richard Knott

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Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« on: Saturday 30 November 24 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Caroline CORKER (nee BURT) appears in the 1841 census (HO107 713 6) with her children (William, 10; David, 9; and Julius 6m). John HUTSON is in the same household. Julius' baptism shows that his father was a Charles CORKER, seaman. Charles appears to have died in 1847 in Aden. (There is another Charles and Caroline CORKER having children in the same area at the same time, which confuses things, but I haven't found any other baptisms.

In 1847 John HUTSON and Caroline CORKER married (presumably once Charles had died) and, in 1851 (HO107 1553), they are living with John's niece (Martha HUTSON) and Louisa CARTER, 8, listed as his daughter. I think this must be a misprint for Louisa CORKER, who I assumed to be the daughter of Charles and Caroline, but she may be John's illegitimate daughter.

By 1861 (RG9 298) Louisa has become Louisa HUTSON, 19, although this does not imply John is the father.

I would like to find out who her father was, but I can't find her baptism, birth registration (the Louisa Matilda CORKER born in 1843 is the daughter of the other Charles and Caroline), marriage or death.

Does anyone else have better eyes?

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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 30 November 24 15:57 GMT (UK) »
There is a Louisa Caroline Corker born April qtr 1843 in Marylebone Vol 1 Pg 206

Not her as she is with mother Ann in 1861
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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 30 November 24 16:05 GMT (UK) »
The 1851 census page is quite clear: her name is Carter.

However, this is the enumerator's book into which he has copied the entries from the original schedules.  Those schedules no longer exist, so it is impossible to say if he has mis-transcribed it from an illegible schedule i.e. given it his best guess or whether it really was Carter that was written.

Many births were not registered in the early years of civil registration, even in families where previous children had been recorded.  Or it could be missing from the index - there are apparently instances of that happening. 

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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 November 24 16:55 GMT (UK) »
There is a Louisa Caroline Corker born April qtr 1843 in Marylebone Vol 1 Pg 206
Not her as she is with mother Ann in 1861

Yes, sorry; I should have said that wasn't her.

The 1851 census page is quite clear: her name is Carter.

However, this is the enumerator's book into which he has copied the entries from the original schedules.  Those schedules no longer exist, so it is impossible to say if he has mis-transcribed it from an illegible schedule i.e. given it his best guess or whether it really was Carter that was written.

Nell

Thanks for replying. I realise it says 'Carter' but it seems highly likely that the original said (or should have said) Corker, given that the names have a similar shape and she is listed as 'daughter'.

I know a lot of births weren't registered, especially in the early days but I would have thought a death or marriage might be there somewhere.

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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 November 24 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Charles Corker widower - Cooper married Caroline Anthony widow 9 July 1837 St Leonards Shoreditch

His father  Charles Thomas Corker - Draper

Her father William Bush (looks like to me) -Deceased Brush Maker  Ref: ancestry

Children????
Ann Anthony Corker 1839 reg. Whitechapel mother's maiden name Burt  died 1840 age 0
Ann Anthony Corker 1840 reg. Stepney mother's maiden name Burts

Julius Corker bap 27 December 1840 St Peter Stepney of Charles Corker and Caroline.  No registration found.
Father Seaman

Louisa Matilda Corker 1843 reg. St Luke Mdx mother's maiden name Anthony technically this was her previous married name and not her maiden name.

1841 census Silver Street AMENDED
William 10 and David 9 are from either Charles Corker's first marriage or Caroline Burt's first marriage to William Anthony

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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 November 24 22:34 GMT (UK) »
William Anthony widower married Caroline Burt spinster 21 February 1830 St Dunstan, Stepney

child
William Anthony bap 1 May 1831 St Matthew Bethnal Green born 9 April 1831
father William a Blacksmith.

So William Corker 1841 is probably William Anthony

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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 01 December 24 00:11 GMT (UK) »
Charles Corker widower - Cooper married Caroline Anthony widow 9 July 1837 St Leonards Shoreditch

His father  Charles Thomas Corker - Draper

Her father William Bush (looks like to me) -Deceased Brush Maker  Ref: ancestry

Children????
Ann Anthony Corker 1839 reg. Whitechapel mother's maiden name Burt  died 1840 age 0
Ann Anthony Corker 1840 reg. Stepney mother's maiden name Burts

Julius Corker bap 27 December 1840 St Peter Stepney of Charles Corker and Caroline.  No registration found.
Father Seaman

Louisa Matilda Corker 1843 reg. St Luke Mdx mother's maiden name Anthony technically this was her previous married name and not her maiden name.

1841 census Silver Street AMENDED
William 10 and David 9 are from either Charles Corker's first marriage or Caroline Burt's first marriage to William Anthony

Julius surname transcribed as CoCker on GRO indexes

COCKER, JULIUS       mmn BURT 
GRO Reference: 1841  J Quarter in STEPNEY  Volume 02  Page 430

1851 census
John Hutson, Caroline Hutson, Louisa Carter & Martha Hutson address Silver Street - added same address on 1861 census for John, Caroline & Louisa Hutson

1851 census
Piece   1553
Folio   353
Thomas Hutson 38 Head
Thomas Hutson 13 Son
William Anthony   21   Visitor

William Anthony (edit - previously posted by Amondg)
Birth 9 Apr 1831 Baptism 1 May 1831 Saint Matthew,Bethnal Green,London
Father William, blacksmith mother Caroline abode Wilmot St



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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 01 December 24 07:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much; good detective work.

Having seen one birth/baptism entry with father's occupation as wine cooper and mmn as Anthony; and another as father's occupation seaman and mmn Burt, I had assumed there were two couples, but clearly there weren't. I still find it odd that a wine cooper became a seaman, but perhaps that's an error.

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Re: Is she Louisa Corker or Louisa Hutson?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 01 December 24 13:52 GMT (UK) »
GRO Index
John Corker 1838 reg. St Luke MDX mother's maiden name Anthony - possibly Burt
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Non Conformist Burial - Wesleyan
Ann Anthony Corker age 11 Weeks of Chas? Street Bethnal Green.
 Ref: ancestry
Another place to look, non conformist records

ADDED
This  Ann Anthony Corker bap. 6 November 1838 St Mary Whitechapel father Charles - Wine Cooper