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1934 BANCo cigarette case signature search
« on: Friday 29 November 24 10:18 GMT (UK) »
We have been researching 9 signatures on a cigarette case gifted to a pilot of the British Air Navigation Company in 1934, the flip side shows a list of British Aircraft Registrations that they flew. The company operated from 1932 to '35 and folded in '37.
There is one signature that eludes us. It starts J.A. or I.A. or even H. None of the usual surnames seem to line up with the signature.

3 of the other signatures are of note:
 Lord Emherst. Journalist, Pilot & Director of B.E.A. in the 1960's
 T.W. Morton. Flew the Croydon-Le-Bourget run with Amy Johnston, Chief test pilot for LAP Halifax production during WW2 & started Morton Air service in 1945.
 V.E. Flowerday. B.A. pilot that brought Chamberlain, & his piece of paper, back from Munich, Squadron Leader & OBE.   

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Re: 1934 BANCo cigarette case signature search
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 November 24 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Forgot to add the bigger pic!

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Re: 1934 BANCo cigarette case signature search
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 November 24 15:21 GMT (UK) »
Caters perhaps?

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Re: 1934 BANCo cigarette case signature search
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 30 November 24 04:17 GMT (UK) »
Can't help with that, as some of the personal flourishes are quite extensive.  I see Casarto / Asarto
but there doesn't appear to be anyone by that name associated with the group.
For anyone searching for images, though ( see the names below)  this publication appears to have a photo of the men. I'm guessing The Page - "CHARLIE" was the person to whom the case was given. Not sure what a page's duty might have been. Perhaps Attendant?

A BANCO GROUP - The names from left to right are : J. W. Spinner ( Traffic Clerk ) , H. C. Coysh ( Managing Director ) , H. C. D. Hayter ( pilot ) , T. H. Chamberlain ( Traffic Superintendent ) , V. E. Flowerday ( pilot ) , S. M. Ferguson  ( pilot ) and Charlie the page
The Aeroplane - Volume 47   https://books.google.ca/books
( changed as url didn't work - sad, as I'm sure descendants would have liked to buy a view)
♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥  Always looking out for the BHC  ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡ ♥ ♡
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Re: 1934 BANCo cigarette case signature search
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 30 November 24 07:09 GMT (UK) »
J A Easterbrook
Devir/Dever/Diver, O'Donnell, Sweeney, Doherty/Dogherty/Docherty( DON), Flanagan (Newry, DOW), Hennessy (Ballybunion, KER), Nally (Ballinacarrick,WEM) Meer (Paradise, Ballynagard, CLA) McKinnon, McLeod, Beaton, McLennan, (Skye, inc. Raasay) Christie (Dunblane & Glasgow) Wilson, Swan, Orr, (Airdrie)  Marshall (Burnley LAN/Stockport CHS) Burcham, Chamberlain, Crisp, Cone, Hewitt, Everard, Williamson, Jermy, Wade (NFK/SFK) Bell (CUL) Baglee & var. (DUR)

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Re: 1934 BANCo cigarette case signature search
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 30 November 24 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all,
 I will have to try and source a copy of The Aeroplane, Vol 47, page 260.
The list of planes on the case are mostly 3 seaters (Pilot +2) apart from the Dh84 dragon & the tri-motor so no capacity of a page. Also the list on that case is only part of the BANCo fleet. One of the listed is owned by Mr Hayter.
Of the list of names I have for BANCo so far, Spinner, Chamberlain & the page Charlie are new.
I also have:
        S.J. Dupe (mechanical staff),
        I.C. Macglichrist (chairman),
        A.J. Styran,(Pilot & partner)   
        Flt-Lt John George Denholm Armour,(pilot)
   Capt C.D. Barnard.(pilot)
   S M Ferguson,F (pilot)
   F/O Herbert Cecil Douglas Rex Hayter (pilot & plane owner)
   Capt Newman  (pilot)
   Mr. L.J. Rimmer, (Lancelot John) (pilot)
   Capt Nevil Stack (Not sure is part of BANCO)(pilot & all round celebrity)
   Mr Sydney Lane Foster St Barbe (pilot)
   Mr Nigel.T. Tangye (pilot & famed author)
   LS Whicher,(pilot)
   Mr. C.B. Wilson (pilot)
As well as the case names.

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Re: 1934 BANCo cigarette case signature search
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 30 November 24 16:50 GMT (UK) »
Caters & Easterbrook? Too short & long respectively.
Also they failed to show any aviation related searches.

We have another question.
what we think is Bobby Coysh may be Babby Coysh?
Comm Humphrey Cecil Coysh had a sister, Barbara D. Coysh.

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Re: 1934 BANCo cigarette case signature search
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 30 November 24 21:02 GMT (UK) »
My surname is long, but you’d never know that by looking at my signature! 😁

J A Easterbrook is the name of a 20th C researcher into psychological and behavioural influences on an aviator’s performance…seems feasible that he was associated in some way with these men.

Devir/Dever/Diver, O'Donnell, Sweeney, Doherty/Dogherty/Docherty( DON), Flanagan (Newry, DOW), Hennessy (Ballybunion, KER), Nally (Ballinacarrick,WEM) Meer (Paradise, Ballynagard, CLA) McKinnon, McLeod, Beaton, McLennan, (Skye, inc. Raasay) Christie (Dunblane & Glasgow) Wilson, Swan, Orr, (Airdrie)  Marshall (Burnley LAN/Stockport CHS) Burcham, Chamberlain, Crisp, Cone, Hewitt, Everard, Williamson, Jermy, Wade (NFK/SFK) Bell (CUL) Baglee & var. (DUR)

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