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James/John Caddick 1883
« on: Wednesday 27 November 24 11:02 GMT (UK) »
on the 1901 Wales census in Merthyr Tydfil I have a Ellen Caddick nee Griffiths(wife of a Edward Caddick who is in SA in boer war) living with 2 of her brothers and a Jas (James/John) Caddick shown as brother-in-law.

James/John is shown as born 1884 in Tipton Staffs (the census shows Glam but is incorrectly transcribed) and I assume (?) brother of Edward Caddick born 1876 Tipton Staffs.

Now I do believe that Edward is an illegitimate birth based on baptism records and military attest information.

What I trying to find is any other information on James/John Caddick. If he is illegitimate I believe this would be his birth certificate:

Name   John Caddick
Registration Date   1883[1883]
Quarter of the Year   Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration Place   Dudley, Staffordshire, England
Volume   6c
Page   81

The 1901 census is the only concrete information I have:

Detail Source
Name   Jas Caddick
Age in 1901   17
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1884
Relation   Brother-in-law
Gender   Male
Where born   Glam, Baynarren (transposed with Ellen's brother
Civil parish   Merthyr Town   Dowlais
Ecclesiastical parish   Dowlais St John
County/Island   Glamorgan
Country   Wales
Registration district   Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district   Upper Merthyr Tydfil
Piece   5029
Folio   62
Page number   22
Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
Ellen Caddick  20      Head
Jas Griffiths    22      Brother
Jas Caddick    17      Brother-in-law
Thos Griffiths 10       Brother

Rather long winded but would welcome any assistance with James/John Caddick
NOTE: I have all Information on Edward from birth to death.

Ray


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Re: James/John Caddick 1883
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 27 November 24 11:27 GMT (UK) »
You can buy a digital copy of his birth cert for £3 to establish his mothers name.  GRO online is showing no mmn so clearly illegitimate

Same for Edward

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
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Re: James/John Caddick 1883
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 November 24 11:28 GMT (UK) »
The GRO shows mmn as ‘-‘ for that record but there is another, also Dudley, same quarter, mmn Ellis. Vol 6c, page 97. Both available for £3 (each) from the GRO
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: James/John Caddick 1883
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 November 24 11:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks both, use gro all the time, didn't think about the digital record. I know that Edward,s mother was Sarah Anne Caddick.
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Re: James/John Caddick 1883
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 27 November 24 12:37 GMT (UK) »
Ordered birth certs for Edward and John. Edwards mother Sarah Anne Caddick, Johns mother Emma Jane Caddick. Birth addresses for both are about 1.5 miles apart in Tipton Staffs. Sisters??

Thanks for the information on digital copies had not been aware of that   

Ray
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Re: James/John Caddick 1883
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 November 24 12:41 GMT (UK) »
The digital records option is fantastic, especially when you are not sure it’s the one you’re looking for. As it gives all you need, I haven’t bought the full certificate since the digital option came in.
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....