George OLLIFFE ca 1825

[athacliath62]

The IrishGenealogy website allows baptism and marriage searches of many Catholic Parishes in county Cork, however no Church of Ireland parishes are included on the site for Co. Cork.

[garlands]

I believe that I have found George's elder brother, Robert, in an extract from the 1851 Census which was made in 1919. In the hope that details might enable someone to identify their father, Robert (ca 1805) and his marriage, herewith details of the two families:-

                           1851 (mostly)                                       1871

             Robert OLLIFFE      1822                  George OLLIFFE            1826
             Mary nee FARMER  1825                   Thomasina nee GOOD   1833
                       married       1843 in Cork                     married          1851 in Cork

             George                 1844  London        Lydia Maria                   1854 London
             Robert                  1845                    Robert                          1856
             Joseph                  1847                    George                         1859
             Lydia Maria           1849                     Mary Ann                      1861
                                                                    Joseph                          1863
            Mary Elizabeth        1855                    Edward                         1865
            Benjamin                1857                   Robert                           1867
                                                                    William                          1869

[aghadowey]

I notice that both families have a daughter Lydia Mary.
Have you investigated the death of Lydia Olliffe in Whitechapel district in 1862? according to GRO she was aged 71 when she died.

[garlands]

No, but I shall do so

Thanks

[garlands]

Lydia Maria hasn't led anywhere yet, but the search has brought up the following baptism:-

21 Nov 1822     Jane    dr of Michael & Elizabeth OLLIFFE  in  Ballymodan

Ballymodan appears to include Bandon, which is where George married  Thomasina GOOD in 1851, so Jane must surely be related in some way to Robert (1822) and George (1826), but, how? I assume that Michael would have been born ca 1800, so, could he be a brother of Robert (c 1805)?

[garlands]

It looks like Michael was born ca 1790 because

16 Apr 1811    Michael OLLIFFE   m   Elizabeth STEVENS   in Innishannon

Innishannon is only 3m from Bandon, further evidence of his probable family connection, but I cannot find his baptism.

[garlands]

Two further OLLIFFE families, both at St Finbar's in Cork. 12 baptisms 1773-1787 with many 'family' names: Lydia, Joseph, Benjamin, Robert. Of particular interest is:-

06 May 1787    Robert  to  John & Rebecca

considerably earlier than I was expecting, but could he be George's father after 39 years of marriage, perhaps by then with a second wife? Certainly, I cannot find another Robert in County Cork or anywhere near timewise.

[aghadowey]

This would all need to be verified as all submitted trees do but looks promising-
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/9V1W-WN1

[garlands]

Thank you. Lots of info from FamilySearch, but I disagree with many of their dates.

I thought that the spouse of Robert (ca 1805) would be Lydia Maria XXXX because of the number of occurrences of those names in later generations, but how can one be sure without a marriage record?

I need to have a good look at the F-S data tomorrow