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Jude Hovey 1st Foot Guards (Grenadier Guards) 1754-1765
« on: Monday 25 November 24 06:57 GMT (UK) »
I have records of him in the examination of Invalid Soldiers (17th October, 1765) where it says he was born at norwich and that he was 35. This is what confuses me is that the only Jude Hovey born around that time married a Mary Tooley and had 2 childern baptised from 1756-1761 he also had a son Jude Jnr Baptised in 1 Sep 1754 and later another Jude Jnr baptised in 22 Feb 1767 (No death record for the first Jude!).
I have Jude Snrs burial record that lists his wife Mary Tooley and that he died in the parish of Heigham, Norwich (where Jude Jnr 1754 was baptised and where Jude Jnr 1767 lived and died).
Hovey is a fairly rare surname and it seems to me to be the same person. Can anyone tell where the 1st foot guards where located around this time or if I have the wrong person?


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Re: Jude Hovey 1st Foot Guards (Grenadier Guards) 1754-1765
« Reply #1 on: Monday 25 November 24 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi H2022 and welcome,

Where did you find his examination as an invalid soldier? I think you are right that it seems unlikely that the person being considered for a military pension in 1765 is the same one as the Jude Hovey who married Mary Tooley and had at least three children in Norfolk at a time when the soldier Hovey would most likely have been in London. There is also an apprenticeship bond dated 1754 for a Jude Hovey to train as a trowsterer (spinner of yarn) in Norwich, which might well refer to the husband of Mary Tooley.
Have you seen Jude's baptism record for 19 Sep 1731, with parents James and Martha Hovy at St Nicholas in Norwich?

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Re: Jude Hovey 1st Foot Guards (Grenadier Guards) 1754-1765
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 November 24 00:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello Andy, I found his examination on ancestry and fold.com. Yes I have seen it I know that his father James Hovey was buried in 15 Jul at Norwich St Augustine's (I have his administration bond that states his wife Martha as inheritor) I also have a settlement certificate from 20 Mar 1741 when the family moved from Norwich St Augustine's to Trouse Newton Norfolk, in that document two other sons that I have yet to find baptisms for Phillip and James Hovey are listed (There was a James Hovey in the examination of Invalid soldiers in 28 Jul 1761 listed as "born at norwich and a weaver" age 32 and 10 months?). I wonder what happened to the Jude Hovey baptised in 1754? it's nerve wrecking!

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Re: Jude Hovey 1st Foot Guards (Grenadier Guards) 1754-1765
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 28 November 24 15:24 GMT (UK) »
In your original posting you asked about where the Grenadier Guards were in the middle part of the eighteenth century. They were involved in the War of Austrian Succession (1740 - 47), principally the Battle of Fontenoy in 1745, during which the battalion lost 11 officers and 227 men killed or wounded. This battle marked the end the involvement of the Grenadier Guards in Europe during the War of Austrian Succession, and they returned to Britain in 1746. Their next major campaign came during the Seven Years War (1756-63). During this campaign the Guards were initially deployed in Northern Germany but then provided a company of soldiers to form part of the Brigade of Guards which was sent to North America as part of the British force to defend the British Colonies, and were involved in fighting in and around Philadelphia.

Throughout this period (1740-1765) the Grenadier Guards continued to provide guards for the Royal Household in London, so by no means all the men of the Regiment were involved in foreign wars.


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Re: Jude Hovey 1st Foot Guards (Grenadier Guards) 1754-1765
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 28 November 24 15:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the reply. I guess it will probably always remain a mystery (the biggest one for me is Jude Hovey 1754 and Jude Hovey 1767 both sons of Jude and Mary) I'm guessing the first Jude died at some stage.