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John Hill Coffee House Keeper Shoreditch 1832 East End History
« on: Wednesday 20 November 24 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Good morning.

I have been doing some research into my 4 x G Grandfather Eliphalet Hill (previously a topic conversation here owing to his unusual name, none the wiser still)!

He is noted as a deceased Coffee Roaster on my 3 x Great-Grandparents (Ann Hill & Henry Weaver) marriage record in 1859, and all of the family were located in Shoreditch/Mile End/Whitechapel/Spitalfields, essentially in all directions directly off Brick Lane.

On Eliphaltet's birth record from 1805, his parents are John & Mary Hill. I have recently discovered a probate record from 1832, belonging to a John Hill from Shoreditch who was a Coffee House Keeper at 189 Church Street, Shoreditch (now Fournier Street). I have lost my Ancestry subscription and access to the records, but from memory, the address on Eliphalet's birth record (or some other record) tally with what is in John Hill's will.


I wondered if anyone had any knowledge or records of coffee houses in the area at this time? This John Hill appears to have been pretty wealthy, leaving lots of cash and items I think to a sister & brother, but no mention of a wife or children. I think that Eliphalet and family must have lived in relative poverty as they are found in the slum district of Flower & Dean St on 1841 census, which makes me wonder if the names and occupations are a coincidence?

Coffee House Keeper and Coffee Roaster seem to be unusual-ish jobs at the time, in a small area, with the same (albeit) highly common surname. Just wondered if anyone had any knowledge/opinions on the above? Grateful, as always.





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Re: Coffee Houses Shoreditch/Spitalfields - Surname Hill
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 12:20 GMT (UK) »
Sorry, Mother Susannah (Saddler) - Not Mary. Mary was Eliphalet's spouse.

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Re: Coffee Houses Shoreditch/Spitalfields - Surname Hill
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 14:42 GMT (UK) »
Oh that is annoying. It was an insurance document for John Hill, Coffee House Keeper at 189 Church Street, Shoreditch. It also referred to an additional property at Garden Terrace and both of these addresses are mentioned in the Will, so it is the same John Hill. I can't view the insurance document online so I just got the 'headlines' from it.

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Re: Coffee Houses Shoreditch/Spitalfields - Surname Hill
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 14:46 GMT (UK) »
Listed in Holden's Annual London and Country Directory (1811)

Hill John, the Cross Keys Inn & Coffee House, 109, St. John's-st.
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: John Hill Coffee House Keeper Shoreditch 1832 East End History
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 14:48 GMT (UK) »
Incredible work, thank you!

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Re: John Hill Coffee House Keeper Shoreditch 1832 East End History
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 14:56 GMT (UK) »
Found a possible reference to it... https://londonwiki.co.uk/LondonPubs/StSepulchre/CrossKeys.shtml

Definitely the right place - right address, and John Hill even has two mentions as the patron in 1822 and 1825.
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast