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Finding a photo of a "terrible man"
« on: Wednesday 20 November 24 09:50 GMT (UK) »
My grandfather was Harold Alfred Boyle (1881-1927).  He had 5 children, including my father.  All 5 children destroyed all photos of their father and refused to talk about him.  Whenever I asked my dad, he would say "you don't want to know about him, a terrible man".

Of course, he wasn't a "terrible man" to me, and I would love to find a photo of him.  I have been trying for years, thus far with no success.

He joined the armed forces twice - a brief 3-month stint in the Royal Navy in 1900, then he served in the Royal Field Artillery, 1915-1919.  But, as far as I can discover, neither the Navy in 1900, nor the Army in 1915 photographed recruits - or, if they did, those photos have been destroyed.

He also served time in prison in 1921.  Some 10 years ago I looked into police mug-shots or prisoner photos, but at the time I was told that, even if such photos existed, under the 100-yr-rule, access would be denied.  the 100-yr deadline has now passed, of course.

I've wondered about school photos (in Bradford in the 1890's), and I've contacted every single living relative of his sisters and brothers/sisters in law, with no luck.

Any suggestions or advice would be most welcome!
Boyle, Butler, Yarborough, Baldwin, Midwood, McHale, Carter, Noble, Kay, Raper, Greenwood, Swift

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Re: Finding a photo of a "terrible man"
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 10:34 GMT (UK) »
 
He is on a number of Private Trees on Ancestry.You could send a message and ask if they have a photo of him.

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Re: Finding a photo of a "terrible man"
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 10:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Norma ... I have tried that, without success.  There's even one tree with a (private) photo of "Harold Boyle and Edith Butler marriage" - I sent a message many, many years ago, never got an answer.  I suspect it's actually an image of their marriage certificate.
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Re: Finding a photo of a "terrible man"
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 10:50 GMT (UK) »
There are a number of articles in various newspapers about his crime, unfortunately none of them contain a picture.
CHOULES All ,  COKER Harwich Essex & Rochester Kent 
COLE Gt. Oakley, & Lt. Oakley, Essex.
DUNCAN Kent
EVERITT Colchester,  Dovercourt & Harwich Essex
GULLIVER/GULLOFER Fifehead Magdalen Dorset
HORSCROFT Kent.
KING Sturminster Newton, Dorset. MONK Odiham Ham.
SCOTT Wrabness, Essex
WILKINS Stour Provost, Dorset.
WICKHAM All in North Essex.
WICKHAM Medway Towns, Kent from 1880
WICKHAM, Ipswich, Suffolk.


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Re: Finding a photo of a "terrible man"
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 10:51 GMT (UK) »
Yes ... perhaps a decade too early for such photos (1921).  There are also reports of his bankruptcy in 1911, also no photos.
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Re: Finding a photo of a "terrible man"
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 13:52 GMT (UK) »
If those who knew him destroyed all his photos and described him as a terrible man, I'd believe them.

There is a terrible man in my children's ancestry and they'll only learn the bare facts about him from me.

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Re: Finding a photo of a "terrible man"
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 November 24 02:55 GMT (UK) »

He is on a number of Private Trees on Ancestry.You could send a message and ask if they have a photo of him.

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Re: Finding a photo of a "terrible man"
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 November 24 21:32 GMT (UK) »
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