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Looking for a marriage record between Chilla and Rotther/Rother
« on: Sunday 17 November 24 10:27 GMT (UK) »
I have recently subscribed to MyHeritage after being advised that it was more likely that I would find out about my Eastern European background.

One of my dna matches comes back as 1st cousin's daughter - which would be a very close relationship, if correct, but I am not getting any response from the person who has built her tree.

I am wondering, and hoping that someone on this site would be able to find a marriage record for this lady's grandmother, who I suspect might be one of my father's sisters.

On my tree, I have a sibling to my father named Franciska, born on 25 September 1890 in Kl. Underberg to Franz Chylla (this name is often spelled Chyla or Chilla) and Julianna Manikowska.

On the lady's tree, she has listed her grandmother, Franciska Maria, as born on 25 September 1888, and was married to a Hermann Rotther/Rother She also states that Franciska and Hermann went on to have a daughter, Elizabeth Johanna (married name Kawlowski) 1917-1997.

Could this lady's Franciska and my Franciska be the same person?

I am hoping that a marriage record between Franciska and Hermann might name Franciska's parents as Franz Chylla and Julianna Manikowska.

Please, please, please,can anyone help?

*** An update *** I might have found a marriage between a Hermann Rother and a Franciska Chyla in Nowe, 1908.
How could I find the actual marriage record, and would it show the names of the parents?
Researching the names Mckenzie / Mackenzie from Ross and Cromarty especially Scoraig and Rherivach.

The names Fraser, MacGillivary and Grant from Daviot & Dunlichity.

The name of Fraser from Lanarkshire.

The name of Bell from Northumberland.

The name Chilla / Chylla / Chyla from Poland.

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Re: Looking for a marriage record between Chilla and Rotther/Rother
« Reply #1 on: Monday 18 November 24 07:34 GMT (UK) »
It would help a lot if you included the country you are asking about in the title.
Eastern Europe covers a wide area!

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Re: Looking for a marriage record between Chilla and Rotther/Rother
« Reply #2 on: Monday 18 November 24 09:25 GMT (UK) »
If you are referring to Poland - there was no standardised recording of BMD until after WWII. The link below tells you where to request BMD info. If you're looking for a marriage, you're probably looking at approaching the relevant Parish Church.

https://archiwa.gov.pl/en/search-in-archives/genealogy/
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Re: Looking for a marriage record between Chilla and Rotther/Rother
« Reply #3 on: Monday 18 November 24 16:27 GMT (UK) »
Found this on a tree on Ancestry

Franziska does match your ancestors sister
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Bareš, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Endesfelder, Straka & others from Czechia


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Re: Looking for a marriage record between Chilla and Rotther/Rother
« Reply #4 on: Monday 18 November 24 17:04 GMT (UK) »
https://www.genealogiawarchiwach.pl/archiwum-front?locale=en

This must be the site where the marriage record came from.
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Bareš, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Endesfelder, Straka & others from Czechia

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Re: Looking for a marriage record between Chilla and Rotther/Rother
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 21 November 24 12:24 GMT (UK) »
It would help a lot if you included the country you are asking about in the title.
Eastern Europe covers a wide area!

Sorry, I should have mentioned that Nowe is in Poland
Researching the names Mckenzie / Mackenzie from Ross and Cromarty especially Scoraig and Rherivach.

The names Fraser, MacGillivary and Grant from Daviot & Dunlichity.

The name of Fraser from Lanarkshire.

The name of Bell from Northumberland.

The name Chilla / Chylla / Chyla from Poland.

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Re: Looking for a marriage record between Chilla and Rotther/Rother
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 21 November 24 12:26 GMT (UK) »
If you are referring to Poland - there was no standardised recording of BMD until after WWII. The link below tells you where to request BMD info. If you're looking for a marriage, you're probably looking at approaching the relevant Parish Church.

https://archiwa.gov.pl/en/search-in-archives/genealogy/

Thank you for the information, and the link.
I am so grateful to a lady, in Poland, who has found the marriage record for me.
Researching the names Mckenzie / Mackenzie from Ross and Cromarty especially Scoraig and Rherivach.

The names Fraser, MacGillivary and Grant from Daviot & Dunlichity.

The name of Fraser from Lanarkshire.

The name of Bell from Northumberland.

The name Chilla / Chylla / Chyla from Poland.

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Re: Looking for a marriage record between Chilla and Rotther/Rother
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 21 November 24 12:28 GMT (UK) »
Found this on a tree on Ancestry

Franziska does match your ancestors sister

This is the marriage record taken from my Ancestry tree. A very kind lady, in Poland, found it for me, and sent it by email.
Researching the names Mckenzie / Mackenzie from Ross and Cromarty especially Scoraig and Rherivach.

The names Fraser, MacGillivary and Grant from Daviot & Dunlichity.

The name of Fraser from Lanarkshire.

The name of Bell from Northumberland.

The name Chilla / Chylla / Chyla from Poland.

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Re: Looking for a marriage record between Chilla and Rotther/Rother
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 21 November 24 12:30 GMT (UK) »
https://www.genealogiawarchiwach.pl/archiwum-front?locale=en

This must be the site where the marriage record came from.

I agree, I think this is where the kind Polish lady found the record for me.

So many helpful people out there. I am so grateful for all the information.
Researching the names Mckenzie / Mackenzie from Ross and Cromarty especially Scoraig and Rherivach.

The names Fraser, MacGillivary and Grant from Daviot & Dunlichity.

The name of Fraser from Lanarkshire.

The name of Bell from Northumberland.

The name Chilla / Chylla / Chyla from Poland.