Re - what happened to Martin mulligan

[eda]

Hi my research was for my husbands grandfather,,, he was the older brother born John mulligan 1879 Widnes,, he was a mystery,, after 30yrs of research and lots of wasted paper work my husband did a DNA test, We were told grandad eloped with grandmother ww1, yes he, absconded from the army ended up in Birkenhead. 1916 had 7 children but didn't marry grandma till 1927,, always wondered why,,,. Dna put me in touch with a young man who explained grandad had been married before,, he embessled the fireman's and sailors Union was imprisoned for a few months then imprisoned again for deserting his wife and children,,
Then he just disappeared so his wife remarried,,
So yes l working from Martin and Bridget mulligan from swineford Mayo,,, My husbands grandfather was a secretary for the union in Avonmouth,, we were always told he was very political and followed mannie shinwell and others connected with the great strike 1911,
We never believed any of it but it's, all come true he then joined the army, he was also billeted at Balcombe sussex,, where he met grandma he told his children he was guarding the viaduct,, In 1917 the military police were looking for him,, l was sent a copy of a news cutting about this from a rootschat team Member,, this cutting gave  an address in Birkenhead which was his last known address,, and also it gave the same address that my husbands father was born,, grandma was pregnant,, grandad then joined the merchant ships,, l found all the other siblings except for Martin but thanks to you l can now carry on my husbands tree,  eda
 

[Andy J2022]

Did you find out what happened to John's younger brother Owen born 23 July 1884? Apart from a couple of records of him at school with John he doesn't appear in the censuses with the family and there's no obvious trace of him after around 1900. And do you know how Martin got the burn scars on his torso?

[eda]

Hi there isn't anyone named Owen,,

[Andy J2022]

I take it you haven't seen the school admission books for St Marie's RC Pirmary School and St Patrick's RC school in Widnes. There are entries in them for John (born 3 May 1880), Owen (born 23 July 1884),  Mary (born 9 Nov 1883) and Ellen (born 10 Jan 1888). I didn't find any entries for Martin, and I didn't look specifically for Kate. The father is named variously as John, Thomas or Michael M Mulligan. The addresses given are 86 Widwood Street, Water Street (no number given) and 9 Gerrard Street.

[eda]

Hi no havnt seen this are the records on FindMyPast,, if so how do l find them lm not great finding my way round FindMyPast l used to anc,, as for the children l can only find a Owen mulligan born to a Hanley not mulroy,, lm sure when l was looking for the children born mulligan on the GRO there were a few with the mother named Hanley,, l may be wrong will check,, also the streets don't register when l looked at a register someone had kindly posted it gave me Martin as a child at St Joseph's he had been put in a workhouse for truancy it gives his father as Michael,, John my husbands grandfather is on the GRO (B) Prescot,, eda

[heywood]

1891 3013/18

Owen Mulligan, 5 yrs with parents John and Elizabeth. The address is 86, Midwood Street

[Andy J2022]

Eda,
Yes the records are on FindMyPast. The link for the entry I found is https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBOR%2FSCHOOL%2FCHS%2FSL565_4917_12%2F0039&parentid=GBOR%2FSCHOOL%2FAD%2F1158998 See the image below.
However in view of heywood's find of an Owen Mulligan at the address 86 Midwood St with parents John and Elizabeth, the entry I found is almost certainly for the wrong family.
However if you search for Mulligan with a birth year 1880 +/- 2 years in Widnes you will see there are a number of other entries for a John Mulligan (born either 12.12.79 or 19.7.79) at the same schools (St Marie's and St Patrick's) where the father's name is given as Thomas M and the address is Queen's Street.

[eda]

Thanks,, lm sure l have the birth cert for John 1879 and think he  ws (B) Nelson St,, so l found ref to Kate on the school records you linked father Michael,, 3 water St,,
Dna connection also to the mulroy family so l know it must be correct, on the 81 census Bridget mother Margaret mulroy and her son Patrick live a few Dr's down,, lve traced the family back to swineford Ireland,, also in touch with famlies in USA,, it seems the mulligans had a huge family,, two brothers of Michael's the father of John and Martin went to USA around 1907,, with wives and children,, one named John the other Thomas,,.
Christian names are repeated through all generations that's what makes it so confusing,, eda