Author Topic: Wicks/Relf (Sussex, Reading, and on to Wiinipeg)  (Read 1150 times)

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Re: Wicks/Relf (Sussex, Reading, and on to Wiinipeg)
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 16 November 24 21:38 GMT (UK) »
I’m still here.  :o  (Having major problems with iPad.)

Can now view the passenger image:
Home(?)
528 Maryland
Winnipeg

Albert had been in the U.S. before although it has “In transit” so perhaps just on his way to Canada? Annie hadn’t.

Can't see the record you are referring to

The Winnipeg address was documented on the page after Wicks’ name and home address.  :). I believe it was the 23 Apr 1914 passenger list.  I can look again if I’m incorrect about the date.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Wicks/Relf (Sussex, Reading, and on to Wiinipeg)
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 November 24 21:43 GMT (UK) »
Can see what you mean now.
"Final destination" was given as Winnipeg - specific address, 528 Maryland.  Albert recorded as having been to the UC before but only "in transit" presumably meaning en route to Canada.

However the reference to Uncle J Richards attaches to the next pair of passengers, not Albert and wife.
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Surnames include: FRANCIS in Glamorgan / LANWORN in Monmouth / BLACKMAN, RUSSELL in Sussex / KEARSEY, BARLTROP in Essex / TOOKEY in Leicestershire / LASHMORE in London and Kent / GOODWIN, PASQUE, ATTOE, FISK, QUINTON, RUFFLES, CULLINGFORD and others in Suffolk / MAYOSS anywhere anytime! / GILMORE in Belfast

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Re: Wicks/Relf (Sussex, Reading, and on to Wiinipeg)
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 16 November 24 21:45 GMT (UK) »
Winnipeg 1915 City Directory
Wicks Alfd  asst Chemist   C P R shops  h 25, 425 Burrows
   “     Arthur  carp   Rendall and Whyard
   “     Joseph    electn   h 404 Hampton (St J)

Chemist for CPR?  Could Arthur be a brother?  Strange.

Added: the above men were not in the 1914, 1913 or 1912 Winnipeg directories.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Wicks/Relf (Sussex, Reading, and on to Wiinipeg)
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 16 November 24 21:48 GMT (UK) »
Agree.

I didn’t realize there were two pages when I first had access to passenger lists.  Don’t want to admit how long it took me to find out.  ;D
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)


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Re: Wicks/Relf (Sussex, Reading, and on to Wiinipeg)
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 17 November 24 00:00 GMT (UK) »
Your Albert shows up in the 1916 Winnipeg directory.
Wicks Albt   carp   h 530 Sherbrooke

https://archive.org/details/P000921-3-17/P000921-3-17/page/1512/mode/1up

1914 Winnipeg City Directory (published in 1914)
The only individual shown with the address 528 Maryland was a Harry Hooper.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Wicks/Relf (Sussex, Reading, and on to Wiinipeg)
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 17 November 24 00:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all of you for your help.  This has really helped me clarify that this was "my" Annie Maria and her husband Albert.  Have not found any evidence they had any children.  I did find a FindaGrave for Annie, too, she is buried with Albert, and died 3 Dec 1970. 
The only issue is her birthplace of Sevenoaks, when she was actually born in Burwash, but only half an hour away.  The Relfs might have lived there at some point.

Now I need to find her missing sister Ellen!

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Re: Wicks/Relf (Sussex, Reading, and on to Wiinipeg)
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 17 November 24 01:06 GMT (UK) »
When was Ellen’s last sighting?  I’m guessing you’ve considered the possibility of Nellie Relf, living with her aunt and uncle in West Derby in 1901.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada             Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland              (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: Wicks/Relf (Sussex, Reading, and on to Wiinipeg)
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 17 November 24 11:48 GMT (UK) »
When was Ellen’s last sighting?  I’m guessing you’ve considered the possibility of Nellie Relf, living with her aunt and uncle in West Derby in 1901.


Lisa, you’re a genius!  I had not found that. 
When looking for her parents’ marriage I had a heck of a time, until I somehow found them married under their birth names (both were born before their parents married).  So the Ellis Ellen/Nellie is with in 1901 is using his mother’s surname.
Ellen was actually registered as Ellen Relf Ellis, but baptized as Ellen Relf.

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Re: Wicks/Relf (Sussex, Reading, and on to Wiinipeg)
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 17 November 24 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Have you now found Annie's birth registration?  If not it is registered September qtr 1885 as Annie Maria, Ticehurst RD (correct for Burwash) ref 2b 105, mms Potten.

Nell

Added: the family are in Burwash in both 1891 and 1901, with no sign that any of the children were born anywhere else.
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