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Beck born in Scotland 1861 died in Aotearoa 1913
« on: Thursday 14 November 24 19:13 GMT (UK) »
Morena

I am trying to find the Becks on any census after 1893.  John Beck emigrated in 1874. He died 1913.

John Beck (1861) married Susan (Susannah) McLeod (1862) 12 May 1887 at Riverton hospital, Riverton, Southland and they had five children: Elizabeth McLeod Beck 28 July 1890-1958c (m.Robert Carter Coster c.Kathleen McLeod Coster 1915-2007), John Beck 1889c-1961, Joseph Albert Alexander McDonald Beck 9 November 1892-10 December 1971 Invercargill, Thomas James Beck 28 August 1894, Warrio, Southland, Beck 1896c-1896c.
In 1898 John Beck married Agnes Victoria Nicholson and they had 2/3? Children. Norman Douglas William Beck 3 December 1900 in Southland-1971c, Arthur Nelson Beck 1905-1965.
Susan Beck (McLeod) died 15 July 1896 (in childbirth) Woodlaw, Otautau aged 34 buried old Otautau cemetery, Southland.
John Beck horse dealer died 10 May 1913 Riverton, Southland. Should be another census

Otautau – at the foot of the Longwoods, Southland.

The family travelled to Aotearoa on the ship the ‘Invercargill’ from Glasgow 16 July 1874, on assisted emigration to Otago. The State paid the total cost of £81 for this.  John 43, Elizabeth 39, Jane 17, Joseph 15, John 13, James 7, Thomas 5. 

Census 1871 - Lesmahagow, South Lanarkshire, Scotland. 
John Beck aged 40 formerly gamekeeper his wife Elizabeth Beck 37, Jane Beck 14, Joseph Beck 12 a scholar, John Beck 10 a scholar, James Beck 4, Thomas Beck 2.

Electoral Rolls
Year   name   occupation   residence   electorate   qualification   property qualification
1881   John Beck   Farmer   Wairio   Wallace   Freehold    section 169, deferred payment, Wairio
1893   John Beck   Farmer   Wairio   Wallace   Freehold    section 169, deferred payment, Wairio

Any help much appreciated

Nga mihi nui (very best wishes)
Bronwen
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Re: Beck born in Scotland 1861 died in Aotearoa 1913
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 November 24 19:26 GMT (UK) »
Where are you expecting to find them on a census?
Do you mean electoral roll?

Is this them?

1911 45 Earn Street, Invercargill

Agnes Beck, married
Elizabeth Beck spinster
John Beck, groom.

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Re: Beck born in Scotland 1861 died in Aotearoa 1913
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 November 24 19:35 GMT (UK) »
1902, lots of Becks.
John & Agnes are at Gummies Bush. Farmer, section 169, Wairio

Same for 1903 & 1908

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Re: Beck born in Scotland 1861 died in Aotearoa 1913
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 November 24 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Morena

I think it is a mix of electoral rolls and census.  Sorry I wasn't clear about this and where they were.

I need to find his father John who died in 13 November 1884 Otautau, Otago. and his mother, Elizabeth Beck (Gillespie) died 7 June 1897 Wairio, Five Forks, Otago.  This would be for 1881 for both of them.

I think there should be something 1898 for the son John - see below.

Census / Electoral Rolls
Year   name   occupation   residence   electorate   qualification   property qualification
1881   John Beck   Farmer   Wairio   Wallace   Freehold    section 169, deferred payment, Wairio
1893   John Beck   Farmer   Wairio   Wallace   Freehold    section 169, deferred payment, Wairio
1898
1902, 1903, 1908, John & Agnes are at Gummies Bush. Farmer, section 169, Wairio
1911    John Beck, groom, Agnes Beck, married, Elizabeth Beck spinster, 45 Earn Street, Invercargill, (no house there now).

many thanks for your help.

Nga mihi
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Barry, Gibson, Watson, Summers, Edmonstone, Brock, McCartney all of Glasgow and environs
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Re: Beck born in Scotland 1861 died in Aotearoa 1913
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 November 24 23:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bronwen,

Sadly, New Zealand Government does not release genealogical information from censuses. Instead genealogists have to use other resources such as street and phone directories, electoral rolls, juror lists, property owner lists, school records, local history groups, etc.

There were some early and frequently one-off informal censuses that can be accessed, although these may not provide much information for genealogical research.

For further information see:

Informal New Zealand census records 1837-1921
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=873388.0

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.

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Re: Beck born in Scotland 1861 died in Aotearoa 1913
« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 November 24 04:00 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks to both of  you.  I get very confused by I also have some information from the electoral Rolls, But I think you only got to vote if you owned land at that time.  I better investigate when they started and stopped.

Very best wishes
Bronwen
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Re: Beck born in Scotland 1861 died in Aotearoa 1913
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 November 24 04:27 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks to both of  you.  I get very confused by I also have some information from the electoral Rolls, But I think you only got to vote if you owned land at that time.  I better investigate when they started and stopped.

Very best wishes
Bronwen

Don’t forget “even women” could vote after 1893

https://teara.govt.nz/en/voting-rights

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Re: Beck born in Scotland 1861 died in Aotearoa 1913
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 November 24 05:36 GMT (UK) »
Yes indeed we were the first in the world, a great score.

cheers
Bronwen
Campbell, McKenzie, Ross, MacKay, Munro, Sutherland all of Ross & Comarty
Barry, Gibson, Watson, Summers, Edmonstone, Brock, McCartney all of Glasgow and environs
Erskine, Fletcher of Edinburgh