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Indigent burial 1886
« on: Tuesday 12 November 24 09:37 GMT (UK) »
i have a relative died in Melbourne 1886. No local family and a bad alcoholic, highly unlikely to have had any money or friends.

I've seen the inquest report, but how do I track down the burial? PROV no obvious clues

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Re: Indigent burial 1886
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 12 November 24 10:04 GMT (UK) »
Maybe the death certificate will show when and where buried
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Re: Indigent burial 1886
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 12 November 24 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Sadly no - the death certificate pointed me to the inquest, but that's all

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Re: Indigent burial 1886
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 12 November 24 13:32 GMT (UK) »
Are you referring to the death certificate or death registration on an index?  A death certificate in Victoria usually has the place of burial.

If you have the death certificate then what is entered in the column where buried, by whom and names of witnesses?

To help find a place of burial could you please post more details ie name and place of death. 

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Re: Indigent burial 1886
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 12 November 24 19:45 GMT (UK) »
Thomas Robb, d. January 1886. Sanguineous apoplexy. Attached is the document I purchased for 22.50, which was advertised as a death certificate. I agree it looks more like a register.

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Re: Indigent burial 1886
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 November 24 20:25 GMT (UK) »
If you scroll across to the 2nd page of report, you’ll see it gives further details of his death-
date, place, time, reg. including burial at Melbourne Cemetery on 18th Jan 1886, undertaker T Perrant (sp?} witness names and the deceased’s place of origin and length of time in Australia.
Devir/Dever/Diver, O'Donnell, Sweeney, Doherty/Dogherty/Docherty( DON), Flanagan (Newry, DOW), Hennessy (Ballybunion, KER), Nally (Ballinacarrick,WEM) Meer (Paradise, Ballynagard, CLA) McKinnon, McLeod, Beaton, McLennan, (Skye, inc. Raasay) Christie (Dunblane & Glasgow) Wilson, Swan, Orr, (Airdrie)  Marshall (Burnley LAN/Stockport CHS) Burcham, Chamberlain, Crisp, Cone, Hewitt, Everard, Williamson, Jermy, Wade (NFK/SFK) Bell (CUL) Baglee & var. (DUR)

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Re: Indigent burial 1886
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 November 24 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Well that's a lesson 😀
Thank you very much.

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Re: Indigent burial 1886
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 November 24 05:38 GMT (UK) »
Maybe it's better to raise this question separately, but since it arises initial from this death certificate, I may as well start here.

How would it have been known that he had been in Victoria for three years? Would they really have bothered to go around to his last address and search for papers? The inquest report doesn't mention it. And what paper would have told them that anyway? Passport?

I can't find him on a PROV passenger list.

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Re: Indigent burial 1886
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 November 24 06:06 GMT (UK) »
It was probably information received by the informant of his death.
If the informant did not know him very well, it may not be entirely accurate.
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