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Where was Susan Born?
« on: Sunday 10 November 24 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Hello,
I could use some help with the place name of the birth of Susan Craig. I have this family originally from Newtoncunningham, Co Donegal. Susan settled in Parkhill, Ontario, where she died in 1889, aged 57. This is the death record. It almost looks like an abbreviated form of Londonderry, but the word really looks like "Loneberry." Any ideas welcomed gratefully!
Baker: Dorset, England > Newfoundland > Massachusetts
Peddle: England > Newfoundland
White: Dorset, England > Newfoundland
Magner: Co. Cork, Ireland > Boston
Otto: Eisfeld, Thuringia, Germany > Boston
Lowry: Co. Donegal, Ireland > Boston
McDonald: Co. Carlow, Ireland > Fall River, Massachusetts
Thayer: Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England > Braintree, Massachusetts
Marks: Portugal > Massachusetts
Gilmore: Co. Westmeath, Ireland > Massachusetts
Farnum, Phillips: England > Barbados

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Re: Where was Susan Born?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 November 24 21:09 GMT (UK) »
Here's the entire page:
Baker: Dorset, England > Newfoundland > Massachusetts
Peddle: England > Newfoundland
White: Dorset, England > Newfoundland
Magner: Co. Cork, Ireland > Boston
Otto: Eisfeld, Thuringia, Germany > Boston
Lowry: Co. Donegal, Ireland > Boston
McDonald: Co. Carlow, Ireland > Fall River, Massachusetts
Thayer: Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England > Braintree, Massachusetts
Marks: Portugal > Massachusetts
Gilmore: Co. Westmeath, Ireland > Massachusetts
Farnum, Phillips: England > Barbados

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Re: Where was Susan Born?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 November 24 22:15 GMT (UK) »
Is this her marriage record? It's in the registration district of Londonderry, but as for the other locations mentioned on it, I haven't a clue.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1848/09352/5386636.pdf

edit: the diocese is Raphoe.

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Re: Where was Susan Born?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 November 24 22:29 GMT (UK) »
maybe the parish is All Saints, Raphoe, which is in Newtowncunningham. it's a bit clearer at the bottom of the page than in her record.

 https://www.raphoediocese.ie/church/newtowncunningham/church-of-all-saints/


that's a Catholic parish, but the name on the registration is still All Saints.


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Re: Where was Susan Born?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 November 24 23:01 GMT (UK) »
There is or was a Church of Ireland All Saints Parish in Newtown Cunningham also
https://www.cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/allsaints3.html

The site transcribes Susan's townland as Drumhay and John's as Ruskey. I'm sure he knows more about the area than I do. On the other hand, hers is the only location transcribed as Drumhay, so maybe he had as much trouble reading it as I am having.

https://cotyroneireland.com/churchrecord/pdf_files/AllSaintsMarriages.pdf

At least the marriage record is within 16 to 18 years of her birth and based on information that probably came from her. The location on Susan's death record is probably from her child's memory of what his/her mother told them about where she was from. Unless her husband survived her.

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Re: Where was Susan Born?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 November 24 23:15 GMT (UK) »
It does look like Drumhay but I wonder if it was misheard, there is a townland of Drummay right next to Roosky townland.

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Re: Where was Susan Born?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 November 24 00:14 GMT (UK) »
This is Susan (Lowry) Craig's death record in Ontario, Canada. She married John Craig, 1848, and her birthplace was listed as Drummay (Drumhay). I am curious as to what this record says is her birthplace.
Stephen
Baker: Dorset, England > Newfoundland > Massachusetts
Peddle: England > Newfoundland
White: Dorset, England > Newfoundland
Magner: Co. Cork, Ireland > Boston
Otto: Eisfeld, Thuringia, Germany > Boston
Lowry: Co. Donegal, Ireland > Boston
McDonald: Co. Carlow, Ireland > Fall River, Massachusetts
Thayer: Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England > Braintree, Massachusetts
Marks: Portugal > Massachusetts
Gilmore: Co. Westmeath, Ireland > Massachusetts
Farnum, Phillips: England > Barbados

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Re: Where was Susan Born?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 November 24 00:18 GMT (UK) »
This is Susan (Lowry) Craig's death record in Ontario, Canada. She married John Craig, 1848, and her birthplace was listed as Drummay (Drumhay). I am curious as to what this record says is her birthplace.
Stephen
Then that's her marriage record that I posted and that's where she lived in 1848. "Loneberry" is probably what her informant remembered from knowing her. It could be "Londonderry" misheard or abbreviated. I didn't find any locations in Donegal anywhere close to the spelling or pronunciation "Loneberry."

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Re: Where was Susan Born?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 November 24 00:33 GMT (UK) »
This is Susan (Lowry) Craig's death record in Ontario, Canada. She married John Craig, 1848, and her birthplace was listed as Drummay (Drumhay). I am curious as to what this record says is her birthplace.
Stephen
Then that's her marriage record that I posted and that's where she lived in 1848. "Loneberry" is probably what her informant remembered from knowing her. It could be "Londonderry" misheard or abbreviated. I didn't find any locations in Donegal anywhere close to the spelling or pronunciation "Loneberry."
I bet that's exactly what happened. Thanks for those links. Her parents were William Lowry and Jane Callen. I think William remarried in 1835 to Mary Crumlish, although I don't have a death record for Jane Callen.
William's parents were Andrew and Margaret (Browne). Records I'd like to find are:
Marriage of William Lowry & Jane Callen
Death of Jane Callen
Thanks All :)
Baker: Dorset, England > Newfoundland > Massachusetts
Peddle: England > Newfoundland
White: Dorset, England > Newfoundland
Magner: Co. Cork, Ireland > Boston
Otto: Eisfeld, Thuringia, Germany > Boston
Lowry: Co. Donegal, Ireland > Boston
McDonald: Co. Carlow, Ireland > Fall River, Massachusetts
Thayer: Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England > Braintree, Massachusetts
Marks: Portugal > Massachusetts
Gilmore: Co. Westmeath, Ireland > Massachusetts
Farnum, Phillips: England > Barbados