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Re: Unfindable couple / Male was in Navy
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 07 November 24 08:28 GMT (UK) »


"all I know is he didn’t know his real name was Brooks until he joined the army at 18 and he found out his real name"

Presumably, before he joined the Army he used a name other than BROOKS.

Then he joined the Army, at which point.....what happened to cause him to believe his name was BROOKS?

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Re: Unfindable couple / Male was in Navy
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 07 November 24 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

Apologise for not respoding sooner, only got a quick glance as i was at work and on a night shift - Wasnt deliberate....

Now i have had a chance to read in full i will respond,

I have chekced out all the NAVY links and i cannot be sure as i do not know where he was born, i belive he used the surname Robinson until he joined the army when they told him his legal father Brooks, upon discovering he was adopted he opted to change it back to Brooks - Then he entered military and started using this name.

He did trace his parents back to a house/area which they could not be found / had been told they arent around anymore and that was the end of the search for him.

He lives in Chilsey Green road with his wife - Maybe he mved next door to his adopted parents the Robinsons as they had a good relationship?

I think a comment on this thread that names and dates where not verified may be accurate? Young parents who gave diffrent names because they werent keeping him.

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Re: Unfindable couple / Male was in Navy
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 07 November 24 23:29 GMT (UK) »
Hi
It's good that the conversation has helped you to make possible conclusions.

It does appear there was not a marriage of the parents and that the boy was adopted into the willing guardianship of Albert and Gertrude ROBINSON.

Perhaps further information will come to light in the future.

Sue

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Re: Unfindable couple / Male was in Navy
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 07 November 24 23:47 GMT (UK) »
How would the army have known his birth name? That doesn't ring true.
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Re: Unfindable couple / Male was in Navy
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 07 November 24 23:51 GMT (UK) »
How would the army have known his birth name? That doesn't ring true.

Would it not be more likely that his adoptive parents told him his real name at that point.
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Re: Unfindable couple / Male was in Navy
« Reply #23 on: Friday 08 November 24 00:51 GMT (UK) »
And why would it actually matter that he stated his true name or another on application to the services?

Plenty did not.  Nor their correct ages.

And in his mid 20's, he is living next door to the ROBINSON's and no longer using their name.

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Re: Unfindable couple / Male was in Navy
« Reply #24 on: Friday 08 November 24 03:22 GMT (UK) »
You have several pieces of information to work with, and you have given these to this forum. You need to identify the source of the information, beyond just the fact that you have received the information from other people researching this man.

   "All I have to go off is his birth certificate which my family already has "

How did your family researcher come by this birth certificate?

Was it an artifact handed down through the family.

Was it acquired since 1915 by a researcher ie how did the researcher know what record to look for?

If you are giving information that you have acquired from other people with an interest in the BROOKS/ROBINSON family you need to identify this to this forum (the fact, not the researcher)

To make best use of the information you are giving us to work with, you need to identify the source of your information.

  "all I know"  is not very helpful.

Do you have a marriage certificate for the man, born 1915, you are researching?



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Re: Unfindable couple / Male was in Navy
« Reply #25 on: Friday 08 November 24 15:48 GMT (UK) »
Hi all

My great grandad was “abandoned” as a child and raised by another lady…. No one has any idea why and after hours of research I am no closer than I was

All I have to go off is his birth certificate which my family already has but as you can he was Stoker in Royal Navy ( I think) but we have no dates of births for either of them

Information very sparse on Ancestry. Would love to be able to surprise the family with the information
They lived at 4 Boundary Close Chatham at the time of his birth


Not sure if this is any help or relevance but he was raised by a lady named Mrs Robinson

Thank you

Perhaps the Father, Joseph Thomas Brooks was also a Naval or Military man?

The Address on the Birth Certificate is Boundary Road, Chatham and his Military Occupation Royal Navy Stoker.

The Occupation in brackets (Furniture Polisher) was his Civil Occupation and probably before joining the Royal Navy.

Births, marriages and deaths in the armed forces

https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/birth-marriage-death-armed-forces/

Dad would have been away for substantially long periods of time, so a trusted female took charge of the child?

Added: Chatham had a Royal Naval Dockyard, with land and buildings.

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Re: Unfindable couple / Male was in Navy
« Reply #26 on: Friday 08 November 24 19:29 GMT (UK) »
The 1915 Birth of Joseph Thomas Brooks was Registered with the General Register Office.

Mother Maiden Surname: Sayles

Registration District: Medway

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