Unfindable couple / Male was in Navy

[bradwaterss]

Yes

Maiden name is Sayles or maybe spelt Sales?

[amondg]

DNA seems the way to go.

The registrar will write down what was given, no proof was needed.

[amondg]

There is a marriage of a Mabel Seales 1910 Portsmouth Sept quarter it lists two women and only one man so something is missing. Could the missing name be Brooks?

She seems to be the daughter of Thomas and Mary Seals (1901 census) of Portsmouth Hampshire.

NO
FindMyPast has the other name as Sidney C Borrett.

[Cas (stallc)]

There is this possible, RN Stoker re-enlisted mentions Chatham

Name   Joseph Brooks
Gender   Male
Birth Date   27 Apr 1875
Birth Place   Bermondsey, London
First Service Date   10 Dec 1894
First Ship Served On   Vivid II
Last Service Date   28 Jan 1902
Last Ship Served On   Actaeon
Service Number   278653

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/598822:60522

He seems to already have a wife Martha Hall, married 1901 https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/2781332:1623

Family can be found in 1911

1919 he is living in Chatham, wife has a different address

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61588/records/157209377?tid=&pid=&queryid=d8c30741-8687-4ebc-8cfa-f43a084adc83&_phsrc=Rnp636&_phstart=successSource

Dies May 1922 on pension records

Possible
Deaths Jun Q 1922   
Brooks    Joseph    46    Medway 2a   863    

Only stoker with namesake that came up, so would keep on file or try rule out.

Cas

[Neale1961]

Only stoker with namesake that came up, so would keep on file or try rule out.

There are these 2 men who have records as a stoker with the navy.

Joseph Brooks
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_p=1900&_q=Joseph+Brooks+navy+stoker
born 7 June 1891 Ashby Leicestershire
K22497

Joseph Brookes
21 March 1882 Sheffield Yorkshire
SS101146
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D7086666

Also a couple of possible stokers to look at with the name Thomas Brooks

Thomas Brooks b 20 April 1893
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6996679

Thomas Brooks b 26 August 1893
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D6979423

[sparrett]

Have you followed the Mabel SAYLES b 1890 to Benjamin and Mary (nee MYERS) SAYLES?

She can be seen in 1901 living with her mother, Mary Elizabeth  who has remarried and whose surname is now STANARD/STONARD  and sisters. They live in Russell Road Wimbledon.

In 1911 she is still single with this family
One sister I think is named Ethel, though on other census she is Eliza.

 On the 1911 document . Mabel I think has written her own name and it resembles the signature of the bride in a marriage to George WELLS in 1920 which took place in Clapham Surrey.

Sue 

[sparrett]

FYI, but not of real help

In 1911 living at 4 Boundary Rd Chatham, a home of 6 rooms,.

ALLAN, Stewart,34. an accountant
ALLAN, Minnie, 27
Allan Stewart 4 years.

They'd been married 5 years.

Sue

[Dave Francis]

In April 1914 someone with the initial 'A' living at 4 Boundary Road was seeking employment as 'companion-help' or housekeeper.
[Kent Messenger & Gravesend Telegraph page 10 "Situations Wanted (Female)", 4 April 1914]

Possibly 'A' for the Allan family?

[sparrett]

Disappointing to have not heard from bradwaterss even though they have  been online since helpful information has been offered.

However, moving forward.


bradwaterss, you need to view the 1939 register where you will see Joseph G Brooks and family in Chertsey.

Please note the family next door. ROBINSON.


Research....

Albert Leonard ROBINSON married Gertrude Louise  INGHAM in 1912

They were living in Chertsey by 1925 and before that in Farnham.

An online tree on Ancestry states there were 3 adoptrd children, unnamed of course, and there are photos of them.  One is a boy.

Sue