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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #9 on: Monday 02 December 24 06:38 GMT (UK) »
A James Strang died in Thomastown SRD in 1865, aged 80. Possibly the father of the second James Strang.
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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #10 on: Monday 02 December 24 06:41 GMT (UK) »
James Strang and Kieran Tynan also appear in adjacent houses in Lady Well St. in the townland of Newtown, in a valuation office record dated May 1847.
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/vob/IRE_CENSUS_1821-51_007246852_00703.pdf

Their names are struck through - as the houses were exempt from the rates as then imposed (needed to be over £5 to be individually listed, until the basis was changed to tax all houses, no matter the valuation).


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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #11 on: Monday 02 December 24 07:08 GMT (UK) »
I am afraid I have to report that James Strang (the elder?) appears to have been a hardened reprobate.
A report in the Kilkenny Moderator, of 30/3/1839 has him fined 6d by Thomastown Petty Sessions, for having a pig in the street. The report covers from 1833 to 1839, no specific date.
Lenient of course, as was the style of British justice in those days - could have been transported to the Antipodes!
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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #12 on: Monday 02 December 24 08:10 GMT (UK) »
OP - which child of Catherine Tynan and James Strang do you descend from?
Does his/her marriage registration give details on father's occupation?
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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #13 on: Monday 02 December 24 08:23 GMT (UK) »
There is yet another Valuation Office record for Lady Well St., dated November, 1848. [All these VO dates are from the NAI website, I have not checked].
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/vob/IRE_CENSUS_1821-51_007246854_01046.pdf

This third record shows several interesting things
- The number of houses and numbering is revised, to match that of the later Griffith's Valuation of 1850.
- James Strang's house is renumbered from lot 3 to 4.
- His house is noted as having been built by him.
- He held by lease (from the owner).
- What had been Kieran Tynan's house is renumbered from lot 4 to 5.
- What had been Kieran Tynan's house is now that of Thomas Moore.

That Kieran Tynan disappears from the property record between May 1847 and November 1848 may be an indication that he died during that period. The alternative possibility is that he moved and was living in someone else's home by 1848.
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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #14 on: Monday 02 December 24 08:42 GMT (UK) »
James Strang was godfather to Catherine's sister Ann Tynan when she was baptized in 1833.
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