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Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« on: Tuesday 05 November 24 08:28 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I am looking for information on the Tynan family from Thomastown, Kilkenny, Ireland.
My 3 x great grandmother was Catherine Tynan. I have no information on her birth or death dates.
From what I have pieced together her father’s name was Kieran Tynan & he was born in 1787.
She married James Strang in 1844 in Kilkenny.

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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 November 24 13:33 GMT (UK) »
a few Tynan mention on this site for Thomastown

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie

church records also civil records

also find my past Kryan Tynan death in 1869 different spelling of first name

Cathe Tynan marriage to James Strang also on this site different spelling of first name 17.2.1844

Catherine Tynan baptism 1828 mother Mary Conner, father Kryan Tynan

http://www.findmypast.co.uk



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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 December 24 04:38 GMT (UK) »
Catherine Tynan married James Strang in Thomastown, not Kilkenny, on 17-Feb-1844
Address: Lady Well - which is a street in Thomastown village
Link to original Thomastown parish register page:
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631965?locale=en#page/162/mode/1up

Note that in the parish register, the spelling of the surname varies between Strang and Strange.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 December 24 04:42 GMT (UK) »
In Griffith's Valuation for Co. Kilkenny, published 1850, James Strang is shown as residing
in Lady's Well St., in the townland of Newtown. He is shown as occupying a house, office and small garden, worth 2-10-0 £-s-d. He was also possessed of an adjacent vacant house worth 1-5-0.

James was renting in turn from John Loughlin, the owner of a corn mill located a few doors away on the same street.

Part of the village of Thomastown extends into the townland of Newtown.
Link for Newtown townland location - Lady's Well St. can be seen on the map.
https://www.townlands.ie/kilkenny/gowran/thomastown/thomastown/newtown/
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area


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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 December 24 04:59 GMT (UK) »
Valuation Office records from November 1845 give details  of the exact size and state of repair of James' house, e.g. "house badly finished inside".

The house next door in this document is held by Kieran Tynan! Details of that house also provided.
So, James married the girl-next-door - literally!

Link for original record page:
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/vob/IRE_CENSUS_1821-51_007246854_01012.pdf
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 December 24 05:18 GMT (UK) »
James is presumably the James Strange (note spelling), baptized in Thomastown on 12-May-1815, son of James Strange and Anastatia Prendergast.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631964?locale=en#page/34/mode/1up
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #6 on: Monday 02 December 24 05:22 GMT (UK) »
While the baptism of James in 1815 does not have a specific address, there are baptisms for several other children with the same parents in the parish register, and the baptism of a sister, Mary Strang, on 19-March-1808, does have a specific address, namely Lagan or Legan Street.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631963#page/351/mode/1up

Legan townland and Legan Castle are located near Thomastown, and presumably Legan/Lagan St. was the street in Thomastown running towards that location.
Link for Legan townland:
https://www.townlands.ie/kilkenny/gowran/ballylinch/thomastown/legan/
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #7 on: Monday 02 December 24 05:31 GMT (UK) »
Regarding the baptism of Catherine Tynan on March 30th, 1828, here is a link for the original Thomastown parish register entry:
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631964#page/124/mode/1up

Two things to note:

- There is a specific address - Lady Well. The same address as for the marriage in 1844, and valuation office and Griffith's Valuation records.

- If this is the correct Catherine, which it appears to be, then she was only 15 years old at the time of her marriage in 1844.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Tynan family from Thomastown Kilkenny Ireland
« Reply #8 on: Monday 02 December 24 05:53 GMT (UK) »
The death of Kyran Tynan on 4-Nov-1869 was in Bennettsbridge, Co. Kilkenny, not Thomastown.
As all previous evidence has Kieran in Thomastown village itself this may be a different person, absent some evidence he moved. There were several other Kieran Tynan's in the county - see tythe valuations, etc.  If I were OP, I would order this death registration, to see what was his occupation, who was the informant, etc.

Link for Bennettsbridge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bennettsbridge
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area