Trying to make contact

[Nifty1]

sarajayne3001
Attached to   Percy Oliver Kirtland
Birth   10 Jun 1898
Death   Apr 1993

I have had a bit of a breakthrough and would like to make
contact with anybody with an interest in the above family.

There is a tree ‘owned’ by this person - ‘Burrell- Paisley family tree’ but they have not been on Ancestry for 3-11 months.

I think this might be bad news as far as making contact with anybody who might have unpublished knowledge of family. One never knows without evidence and unless one asks.

[crisane]

There is a tree on ancestry which has both wives of Henry George and their respective children. The owner is Lynne Mills and she was last active today.

Using information from that tree George Henry Kirtland and Alice Elizabeth Palmer had a daughter Phyllis Lorraine Nancy Kirtland 1915 - 2006.  Looking at FreeBMD she married in March 1/4 1942 Windsor registration district. Marriage reported in the Bath Weekly Chronicle and Herald
Sat, 28 Mar 1942 ·Page 9 Victor Jack Rodway at the time of his marriage was an aircraftman. He died in the Bath reg dist in 1984.
 So using the husbands surname (who is not recorded in Lynne Mills tree) I used FreeBMD  to search for any children to them. Found 3 all registered in the Bath reg dist. in 1943, 1950 and 1953
There is a marriage of one of the daughters Of Phyllis Kirtland and Victor Jack Rodway in Bath reg dist in Dec 1/4 1964. This couple had two daughters one Dec 1/4 1966 and March 1/4 1969.
I don't know what specific information you are seeking but looking at some records for Thomas Kirtland and his son George Henry  I can see Henry as a cab driver in 1901, 1911 censuses and GH is recorded as a labourer on Percy's marriage record and the 1939 register.
Anyway this kept me occupied on a cold Sunday morning as an exercise in finding living descendants of the Kirtland clan  and the same can be done for the others if need be.

[Nifty1]

Thanks for that crisane.
This is off of the top of my head and may contain errors

More than 10 years ago one of her children contacted me through a website. She was a second cousin, my gf’s older brother. I have actually met her quite a few times since. She had done a lot of research and lent me her research that consisisted of her findings Anout GHK who was a Windsor cab driver and inherited a carriage from his mother when she died in 1918.( I have a handwritten copy of the will she made, I shall try and get a pic posted) we have entertained each other, staying  over at each others houses several limes. Through her I know quite a lot about GHK and her mother who married and moved to Bath. One of the stories that she sold me related about the tie her gradfather had a tip off go and pick ‘the prince’ up from a pub and take him back to the castle at the time it was raided by the police.
One can search as much as one likes about this but I think it very unlikely that they would find and corroborating evidence- unless there was anythingabout it in the Duty Book of Windsor police station
Does anyone know where such a thing may be?

# There were quite a lot of Thomas Kirtland’s. Temp pic of Thomas James with sos Thomas and his younger brother.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0fd2A2YX7Nu0W5VLkMVl8ekqg

[Nifty1]

I am trying to find out more about the photographer who took the picture in the link above.

Similarly, I trying to find out the photographer who took pictures of Miss Windsor at Clewer Carnival  in 1946.

[Nifty1]

Last post was not worded well.

I would be very grateful if anybody could take a look at the link a couple of posts up and see if they can find anything recorded about a photographer at 14 (14?) Oxford Rd, Windsor in/abt. 1890s.
I’ll post more info on this post when I find it.

When Thomas James Kirtland was born in 1847 in Summertown, Oxfordshire, England, his father, William, was 39, and his mother, Sophia, was 29.

By the time of the 1871 census Thomas was living in Clewer at 11 Gardners Cottages.

On December 25th ? 1894 Thomas J's marriage to Emma Lipscombe was Solemised by George, D. Nicholas ?
 He was previously a batchelor, Bricklayer who lived at York Place and Emma was a spinster who also lived at York Place.


In 1900 Thomas James Kirtland was the householder of 4 Greenham Place Windsor. His son, Thomas William lived next door at no. 3.
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What happened to the house at York Place? I have an idea the William junior had a had in building it.



This copy was probably made in connection with TJK's death

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 They had eight children in 21 years. Some seem to have died young.

In May 1904
Mrs. Emma Kirtland, wife of Thomas James Kirtland, of 82, Oxford-road, Windsor, said her daughter Eva was aged eleven years. Mrs. Florence Ellen Drake, wife ...
Published: Saturday 24 September 1904

Is 82 a misprint for 32 ?
According to a certified copy of TJK's and EL's Marriage Cert dated 29/1/1909 and signed by Arthur,J. L. Cowrie, Rector,


TJK died 28th Janurary 1909 at the age of 64 at his sons pub, The Sun at Pescod Street in Windsor and was buried in St Andrew’s Curch graveyard at Clewer

Other sources put the death at 23rd January

[heywood]

You write:
“By the time of the 1871 census Thomas was living in Clewer at 11 Gardners Cottages.

On December 25th ? 1894 Thomas J's marriage to Emma Lipscombe was Solemised by George, D. Nicholas ?
 He was previously a batchelor, Bricklayer who lived at York Place and Emma was a spinster who also lived at York Place.”

You have Thomas in 1871 - he is married to Emma by then. They married in 1869 not 1894.

His father William and family were in York Place in 1871.

[Nifty1]

I think that what to state is probably correct. Thanks for pointing it out.

Though could be a moot point for two main reasons

The unreliability of info got from digital information

I have original documents concerning the family that demonstrate the lack of exact record keeping and education at the time. There is an anomaly with the documents in my possession.
Re York Pace do you have any more details on the house?

[Nifty1]

No, three main reasons.

Firstly…….

Hold on, I’ll come in again