Rogers and Thomas family search

[AntonP]

I am trying to find dates for the following family generations.
James Rogers whose middle name was maybe Cecil. He married Alice Anne Pascoe (?). Not quite sure of her surname.
Their daughter was Millicent Rogers
Millicent married Cecil Thomas.
I believe they were all Cambourne based except for James for a time.
 
James Rogers left his wife and went to the USA maybe after gold. In 1884 he indicated his intention of becoming a USA citizen while in California and was granted citizenship in 1892 in the county of Silver Bow, Montana. He returned ill to the UK where he died.
Cecil Thomas also left his wife but lived his whole life in Cornwall.

If anyone has access to BMD dates for these people I would be very grateful to get this information.
Thank you very much.
Anton

[Kay99]

Having trouble finding this family with the dates associated with James but wonder whether this might be Annie Alice Rogers in 1901 with daughter Millicent - living in Camborne

Alice Rogers    35    Widow Caretaker Wesleyain Institute
Millicent Rogers 9 Daughter

and Annie Alice in 1871  - living with family in Camborne and listed as born there

Elizabeth Pascoe 48 Head  Housekeeper b Gwinear, Cornwall
William L Pascoe 16 Son
Elizabeth M Pascoe 15 Daughter
Saml H Pascoe 13 Son
Howard Pascoe 9 Son
Alice A Pascoe    5    Daughter
Jane Hall 50 Servant


Kay

[Kay99]

Possible birth for Millicent from the GRO Birth Index with mothers maiden name Pascoe

ROGERS, THOMASINE  MILLICENT      mmn PASCOE     
GRO Ref 1891  S Quarter in REDRUTH  Volume 05C  Page 214

Kay

Added -  And in 1911 Alice and Millicent living with a Cecil Thomas in Camborne

Alice Rogers   46 Widow  b Camborne
Millicent Rogers   19 b Camborne
Cecil Thomas   21 b Hayle Cornwall - Clerk at Engineering Works


Couldn't resist getting the birth of Thomasine Millicent Rogers which confirms her father was James Corin Rogers - a Tin Miner

[Kay99]

There is a possible marriage on the FreeBMD index below which includes a James Corin Rogers and Alice Pascoe and in 1891 Alice was living at home with her mother and listed as Alice Rogers married

Marriages Sep 1890   Redruth    Vol 5c Qtr 344    

In 1894 FreeBMD lists a death in a James Corin Rogers??

Deaths Sep 1894 
Rogers    James Corin    33    Redruth    5c   128   

And possible birth in 1861 from the GRO Birth index

ROGERS, JAMES        mmn CORIN     
GRO Reference: 1861  S Quarter in REDRUTH  Volume 05C  Page 293

[AntonP]

Kay 999, thank you so much for searching for this information. You have found the right family members.
It certainly seems that James Rogers did not live in the US for long after getting his citizenship and ties in with family stories of him retuning home to the UK, sick and dying there. The story of him going to the US ties in with him being a tin miner. I suppose at that stage tin mining, always hard, was in decline and the California gold rush was on, although if memory serves me, also starting to decline. Not an easy life for anyone in the family.
I believe three female family members, Annie, Millicent and one other are buried together in the Methodist chapel, Cambourne cemetery.
Again, I much appreciate our help.
Anton

[osprey]

From the marriage record, he would appear to be
Edward Cecil Thomas dec qtr 1916 Redruth vol 5c pg 391 to Millicent T Rogers

birth reg
Edward Cecil Thomas june qtr 1890 Redruth vol 5c pg 224 mmn Mitchell

school admission record gives a dob as a year before his birth was registered, father Henry
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=school_admissions&id=16712

1901 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSHQ-JVW

1891 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WXVR-SZM

He was a witness on his older brother's remarriage in 1928
https://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=marriages&id=1937229

possible death reg
Edward C Thomas 64 march qtr 1955 Penzance vol 7a pg 137

[Kay99]

Glad it ties in Anton

I think this is the marriage of James Corin's parents in 1852 from FreeBMD

Catherin Corin - John Rogers
Marriages Mar 1852    Redruth    Vol 5c Page 408   

And the family in 1871 (all born Camborne) with a daughter called Thomasine - which might explain Millicent's middle name

John Rogers   53 Railway Gatekeeper
Catherine Rogers   46
Fanny Rogers   15
John Rogers   19
Thomasine Rogers   16
Mary Rogers   13
Mathew Rogers   12
James Rogers   10

I also hopefully attach two newspaper articles on the sad death of James Rogers in 1894

Kay

[AntonP]

Kay999
Thank you so much especially for an interesting newspaper article from the Cornishman. James Rogers reputation down the ages is one of someone who abandoned his wife and child and then had the nerve to return home when he was sick.
It seems from the tone of the article and the eulogy that he was quite respected. It does mention he leaves a young widow and child  (which I assume was Annie Alice Rogers and child Millicent). I wonder what the true story was.
Kay, does the story mention which chapel the funeral was held at?
Again, thanks
Anton

[Kay99]

I haven't found a burial but it may have been at a Wesleyian Chapel so I will have a look. 

His father John died in the 1895 so they have been buried in the same place.  James does sound a good man and well respected but after his 1890 marriage could he have gone aboard at that point and just returned pre his death??  In 1881 he is living with his parents in Camborne but I can't see him in the 1891 census in Camborne

Kay

Added - Attached James's death cert - His death was registered by his brother in law