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Edward Cliney/Culliney of Hull born 1908
« on: Friday 25 October 24 11:43 BST (UK) »
Edward Cliney was born in Hull on 16 Apr 1908, the eldest son of William Cliney (1887-1955) and Amy Pennington (1886-1916).

Edward married Rose Ann Emmett (1918-1989).

The last record I have of Edward is the 1939 Register of him and Rose living together in Hull.

I have had no luck in finding Edward’s death record. Searches have not been helped by the fact that he and some of his relatives often went by the name of “Culliney” rather than “Cliney”.

Edward (and his father) often fell foul of the law and they were clearly “interesting” characters.

Any help in tracking down what became of Edward after 1939 would be appreciated.

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Re: Edward Cliney/Culliney of Hull born 1908
« Reply #1 on: Friday 25 October 24 12:07 BST (UK) »
They had a child, June Marian Cliney, in 1939 who died same day. Cannot see any other births in England after 1939.

Where did Rose Ann die?

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Re: Edward Cliney/Culliney of Hull born 1908
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 October 24 12:31 BST (UK) »
June Marian Cliney was the daughter of Daniel Cliney (Edward’s younger brother) and Gladys Bradley, not Edward and Mary Ann.

Mary Ann’s death in 1989 was registered in Beverley under the name of “Garner” (DOB verified against the 1939 Register and on the death index record). However, I’ve not found out when Mary Ann remarried.

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Re: Edward Cliney/Culliney of Hull born 1908
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 October 24 12:32 BST (UK) »
Rose Ann Garner died Beverley, 1989. When did she re marry? 1939 register has Garner (Cliney)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVZ4-D1YX

Sorry; must have posted similtaneously


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Re: Edward Cliney/Culliney of Hull born 1908
« Reply #4 on: Friday 25 October 24 12:41 BST (UK) »
Rose Ann Garner died Beverley, 1989. When did she re marry? 1939 register has Garner (Cliney)

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVZ4-D1YX
My post crossed with yours! I’ve not found a record for when Rose Ann married Mr Garner (tried Cliney, Culliney, Emmett but no joy). As said, her death was registered in Beverley.

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Re: Edward Cliney/Culliney of Hull born 1908
« Reply #5 on: Friday 25 October 24 14:04 BST (UK) »
Could not find his birth on GRO in 1908. Could he have changed his name?  I did find a Garner birth in Watford with MMN Emmett, 1943 but may be a coincidence.

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Re: Edward Cliney/Culliney of Hull born 1908
« Reply #6 on: Friday 25 October 24 14:31 BST (UK) »
Parents married Dec qtr 1907 - William Cliney/Amy Pennington

1911 shows Edward aged 2yrs but no birth reg

All registered as Cliney

Daniel b Sept qtr 1911 Hull
Annie Lilian 1912
William1915 & Patrick Ernest 1916
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Re: Edward Cliney/Culliney of Hull born 1908
« Reply #7 on: Friday 25 October 24 15:30 BST (UK) »
Could not find his birth on GRO in 1908. Could he have changed his name?  I did find a Garner birth in Watford with MMN Emmett, 1943 but may be a coincidence.
I’ll need to investigate that Watford link but I’d say it’s doubtful based on geography but it’s worth looking at. As for Edward changing his name, who knows? As I’ve said he and other members of the close family interchanged between “Cliney” and “Culliney”.

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Re: Edward Cliney/Culliney of Hull born 1908
« Reply #8 on: Friday 25 October 24 16:14 BST (UK) »
There was a Garner-Emmett marriage in the London area in 1938 but it was clearly a different couple. It is most likely that the girl born in 1943 was from this marriage.