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David Boulding
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Richard Foord and mother or wife?
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Thursday 24 October 24 18:14 BST (UK) »
This is Richard Foord of Aldington (1812-1892). I think this is his mother - who died in 1864. Is this possible? I have a photo of his wife but not sure she is the woman in the photo.
Date of photo?
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McGroger
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Re: Richard Foord and mother or wife?
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Sunday 27 October 24 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Hard to tell their ages. To me he looks 45-50. She looks older but it isn't clear from the photo. Certainly their pose suggests it's his wife or mother. The clothing looks about right for 1860s.
Could you post the picture of his wife for comparison purposes please?
And my moving it up the board should get a bit of attention from more expert people.
Peter
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Re: Richard Foord and mother or wife?
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Sunday 27 October 24 22:25 GMT (UK) »
I would say that it is mid - late 1850s. There is a photograph in my copy of Jayne Shrimpton's
Family Photographs
, that is very similar.
Gadget
Add - the lady looks older than the man so I suggest that it could be his mother.
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sparrett
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Re: Richard Foord and mother or wife?
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Monday 28 October 24 00:21 GMT (UK) »
To me there is something similar in the set of the mouth between the two.
I also see a resemblance in the facial structure around the eyes and brow.
Might be just me!..
Sue
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David Nicoll
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Re: Richard Foord and mother or wife?
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Monday 28 October 24 06:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
I think I would agree that she looks older, old enough to be his mother. But personally I don’t think I would put his age above about 30.
It is interesting they both seem to be wearing fairly heavy gloves, a bit unusual?
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Re: Richard Foord and mother or wife?
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Monday 28 October 24 06:51 GMT (UK) »
I don’t often drift over to this forum so please forgive what are possibly silly questions but I don’t see a seat back, could she be sitting on a stool or bench? Her left shoulder/arm/hand doesn’t look quite right - was it common to have the more distant side of the body (in this case, shoulder area) so different than the other side or possibly that area blended into the wallpaper? Just curious.
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David Boulding
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Re: Richard Foord and mother or wife?
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Monday 28 October 24 10:58 GMT (UK) »
This is known to be Catherine Goland (nee Easton) Foord (1819 -1895), Richard's wife to compare her face with my initially supplied image.
I have pondered whether this is the same woman as appears in the first image. I suspect the first image is Richard's mother rather than wife in which case his mother was Priscilla (nee Tolhurst) Foord (1786 - 1864)
Priscilla was widowed when her husband Richard Foord senior died in 1856 hence no photo existing of her with her husband
Boulding Boulden Bollyng (all - mostly Kent)
Finch (Kent - Henry & Elizabeth (Fossett) Finch m1687 London)
Foord (Kent - Aldington, Stanford area)
Philpot (Kent - Alexander Philpot died 1601 Ashford)
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Rose (Kent)
Gadget
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Re: Richard Foord and mother or wife?
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Monday 28 October 24 11:06 GMT (UK) »
The second photograph is taken in the same broad time frame* as the first so could not be the same woman as in the first. The first photo is most likely his mother, as I said in my earlier post #2
Gadget
* maybe up to mid 60s
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David Boulding
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Re: Richard Foord and mother or wife?
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Monday 28 October 24 11:14 GMT (UK) »
The second photo which features Richard's wife Catherine Goland (Easton) Foord was quite a bit later (I think). No? As this picture is always found in my albums opposite her husband (Richard Foord junior) by then shown as an old man I assumed the photos were contemporary. Or maybe like many people the ladies prefered photo's of themselves when much younger. [Seeing the census I have noted that fibbing about ages was a national sport]
Boulding Boulden Bollyng (all - mostly Kent)
Finch (Kent - Henry & Elizabeth (Fossett) Finch m1687 London)
Foord (Kent - Aldington, Stanford area)
Philpot (Kent - Alexander Philpot died 1601 Ashford)
Waggon/Waghorn (Kent pre 1715)
Rose (Kent)
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