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John Niland burial details - Burrard Road E16
« on: Tuesday 22 October 24 19:50 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I am a research volunteer for the "In From the Cold Project" which is dedicated to discovering the burial locations of servicemen who died due to their military service but who are not yet commemorated by the CWGC. One such person is John Niland, RN service number: 01839. He died 9th July 21, aged 51. He lived and died at 2 Burrard Rd, London, E.16. His parents were Michael and Mary Niland. I have searched for his burial in parish records but did not find anything. If there are any members who could point me in the right direction as to where to find this information I would be very grateful.

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Re: John Niland burial details - Burrard Road E16
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 October 24 21:31 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

The 1921 death reg supports a birthyear of 1870 but the John Niland with parents Michael & Mary in 1871 is shown as b 1866 Shropshire

Do you know who reported the 1921 death
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Re: John Niland burial details - Burrard Road E16
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 October 24 21:39 BST (UK) »
RN service records on Ancestry say he was born in Galway.
I can see the baptism records for at least two potential candidates, neither of whom had parents called Michael and Mary.
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Re: John Niland burial details - Burrard Road E16
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 23 October 24 14:07 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

The 1921 death reg supports a birthyear of 1870 but the John Niland with parents Michael & Mary in 1871 is shown as b 1866 Shropshire

Do you know who reported the 1921 death

Carole,

As far as I know it was a family member who reported the death.

Stuart.


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Re: John Niland burial details - Burrard Road E16
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 October 24 14:09 BST (UK) »
RN service records on Ancestry say he was born in Galway.
I can see the baptism records for at least two potential candidates, neither of whom had parents called Michael and Mary.

Dave,

Thanks for the additional info regarding Niland's birth place. I will go back to Ancestry and see, if using a wild card search, I can determine what happened to him.

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Stuart

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Re: John Niland burial details - Burrard Road E16
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 October 24 15:46 BST (UK) »
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Re: John Niland burial details - Burrard Road E16
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 October 24 16:04 BST (UK) »
Hi

On the Pension Ledger and index cards for WW1

It looks like it says John Nilands widow was a Mary ?

Date of death was given as the 8th July, address and service number are correct
though

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Re: John Niland burial details - Burrard Road E16
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 October 24 16:06 BST (UK) »
The John Niland who died in 1921 with that address was 51 years old, that is around 10 years different to the person living there in the census that year.  His pob does match Dave Francis's post.

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That wifes name matches Claire
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Re: John Niland burial details - Burrard Road E16
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 24 October 24 08:11 BST (UK) »
John Niland married Mary Ellen Hermitage 1885 registered Brentford.

A tree on ancestry has his DOB as 10 May 1858.

His reported age is not constant 1901 he is 37 when he was actually 43, so his age at death not being accurate could be explained.


ADDED he was R.C not C of E a Catholic burial church/area of cemetery in West Ham.

His baptism was 15 May 1858, born 10 May 1858 Kilcolgan, Galway Ireland parents Michael Niland and Mary Nee Burns.