JOHN CHARLES and MARGARET CADENHEAD

[haney]

Hi Everyone
    I am trying to find more information on my ancestors in Kincardinshire.  John CHARLES and Margaret CADENHEAD who were married July 14 Kinneff and Catterline.  John was from the Parish of GARVOCK and Margaret was in the Parish of Kineff and Catterline.

3 Children found for the above couple

1)  ALEXANDER CHARLES b June 7, 1787 at Mill of Garvock
3) JAMES CHARLES b December 6, 1789 at Mill of Garvock
2)  JANE CHARLES b April, 24, 1791 at Mill of Garvock

I am descended from James Charles who ended up in Woodend Farnell from 1812.  He died at a ripe old age of 91.

I do not have any other records for either John CHARLES OR Margaret CADENHEAD. No deaths seem to be recorded for them in Garvock,  could have moved though of course or their deaths occured near by/buried in an ajoining county/town etc.

I am hoping to expand on both ALEXANDER and/or JANE CHARLES to see if they may have married/1841 Census etc.

I'm also very interested in this MILL OF GARVOCK.  Perhaps the Charles' worked there!  Could have been a private property owned by   Any help adding some possible information would be most appreciated.  Kindest regards Dianna from Aus

[ColC]

https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk


JOHN CHARLES to MARGARET CADENHEAD
14/07/1786 Kinneff and Catterline

Garvock church deaths are listed on SP 1732 – 1853, however no deaths recorded for the family.
They may have moved to a parish where no deaths were recorded but I do not see a likely death for John or Margaret in the County.

There a 3 possible marriages for Alexander in Scotland but all quite distant from Garvock, no deaths that I can see in Scotland, 1841/1851 census?


JANE CHARLES to DAVID CRAIG, possible marriage 19/02/1814 Bervie

Bervie, Kincardineshire is 4 miles E of Garvock, Kincardineshire 

One baptism in the County. None elsewhere in Scotland. No death records Bervie 1700-1855, no 1841/1851 census?

ELIZABETH CRAIG parents DAVID CRAIG/JANE CHARLES 10/11/1816 Bervie

Colin

[haney]

Hi Colin
   I just replied to your reply and it disappeared.  Anway many thanks for your input and I will follow up on this.  Kindest regards Dianna

[ColC]

There is this John Charles at Garvock, his parents marriage below. I doubt he is your John he would likely be a little too young. (about 16 when married)?
However there may be a link but John appears to be their only son.

Marriage: JOHN CHARLES to CHRISTIAN JAMIE 6/11/1762 Benholm
Banns read at Garvock 30/09/1762

Baptism: JOHN CHARLES 30/01/1770 Garvock
JOHN CHARLES/CHRISTIAN JAMIE

He appears on the 1841 – 1861 census returns at Garvock the 51/61 state born there, the Eliza/Elizabeth about the same age is a Servant. You would need to look at the original on SP to see his marital status, if any.

Valuation Rolls 1855/1865

JOHN CHARLES REVEREND Proprietor/Occupier GARVOCK
PARISH MANSE GARDEN AND GLEBE LANDS OF ARBUTHNOTT

Death: JOHN CHARLES age 98 mother JAMIE 1868 Abode Garvock

Will: John Charles 14 / 5 / 1869
Revd, minister of the parish of Garvock at the Manse of Garvock
Stonehaven Sheriff Court

Regards Colin

[haney]

Hi Col
   Thanks for that.  Its difficult isn't it!!  I know of that John CHARLES the reverend, I did a lot of research on him decades ago as I thought he was part of my group.

He was not married I believe.  There is quite a bit on him in the Kirk sessions though, doesn't help with any connections.

I thought he had a sister Mary???  I did not pursue that line as I did not think it connected with my lot.

I will look at the Alexander Charles marriage you found (3) to see if I get anywhere

Also with JANE CHARLES/DAVID CRAIG.  Her name is spelt JEAN as well for a couple of baptisms.

I think I had a lead on them years ago in England?? from memory possibly!  Somewhere in Kent perhaps.  Anyway will carry on and see where it all leads (if anywhere) thanks so much for your time.  Regards Dianna

[haney]

Hi Again
  One day I will go through the Garvock Kirk sessions!  Will be a task but it is on my list just to see if any of the family are mentioned there possibly or just out of interest I guess.

I did find one Mort cloth for this particular John Charles in 1745 in Sootie Walls.

Wish I could just go over there to Scotland myself to look around LOL.  Many thanks Dianna

[David Nicoll]

Hi, Ancestry has an Alexander born about 1786 dies about 1853 in Aberdeen burial 7 Dec 1853.
Allegedly Extracted Parish records, but not in SP unless mort cloth or misindexed.
They of course could be anywhere in the world! 1800’s is the start of the Scottish exodus, or he could have joined the army.

[haney]

Hi David
  Thanks for that!  I will try and follow up on this as I would really love to find some others in my group.  So this record you found was on Ancestry!!

  It pays to look everywhere doesn't it not just SP.  Yes of course they could have ended up anywhere with all the Clearances etc.

I am just starting to read the Scottish Clearances now.  Will be interesting I think.  Thanks very much for your input.  Regards Dianna

[haney]

Hi again David
   What I may need to find is a death certificate for this Alexander Charles who died in 1853, if one exists of course.  May contact the archives too in Aberdeen to check any details.  Such a long process isn't it.

 Thanks Dianna