English and Elizabeth Tiffen

[petey22]

dear all,
I have come across a document on Ancestry which reads: 'Elizabeth of English and Elizabeth Tiffen born 16th april 1800'. England & Wales, Non-Conformist and Non-Parochial Registers, 1567-1936. Rg4: Registers of Births, Marriages and DeathsSuffolk, Independent, Piece 1861: Sudbury, Great Meeting, Friar Street, Little Or Lower Meeting (Independent), 1707-1837.
I am assuming that 'English Tiffen' is the same 'James English Tiffen' who appears in many trees living in Bulmer, Essex where it also seems his other children are born. There are a few other 'English Tiffen's' knocking around the general area, so I am looking to see if assumptions have been made in the building of some of the trees on internet.

Which leads to my question,,,, or questions (before I start dissecting trees);

Is the Independent meeting place on Friar street in Sudbury? Is a meeting place a Church? Would it have served only residents of Sudbury, Suffolk or other towns and villages such as Middleton or Bulmer in Essex? Would a family make use of this register/Church and then revert to their local Church?

Maybe a lot to ask, but could someone please be so kind as to explain (simply) what the non-Conformist or non-Parochial registers and meeting places are/were? I am guessing it has something to do with not following the general doctrines of the Church at that time?

Many, many thanks in advance for any education in this mater

[KGarrad]

The phrase "Meeting Place" usually refers to Quakers.

[petey22]

Hopefully a copy of the inscription has been attached to this post.

So far I have:
James English Tiffen b.07-05-1757 Acton, Suffolk, bap/chr 31-05-1757, Lavenham, Suffolk. Son of Thomas Tiffen and Elizabeth Hart.
He marries, Elizabeth Abbott, bap/chr 30-05-1764, Sudbury, Suffolk at Sudbury 18-04-1799.
They have:
Elizabeth Tiffen b 16-04-1800, Sudbury, Suffolk (entry in attachments). She marries James Ranson 1824 at Bulmer, Essex.

I can only find them in the 1851 census at Hazeleigh, Essex.
James Ranson 52 b Cockfields, Suffolk
Elizabeth Ranson 48 b Bulmer, Essex?  why not Sudbury, Suffolk?

@ KGarrad, thanks for that, wow Quakers, something I would never have thought of, again thanks 

[amondg]

There is a James English Tiffen bap Belchamp Otten Essex 14 March 1813 son of James English Tiffen and Mary Gibbons.
Obviously a different family.
-----------------------------------------
Ipswich Journal 5 May 1849
On the 21st Ult. aged 85 Mrs. Tiffin relict of Mr. English Tiffin farmer of Bulmer Essex.
---------------
Civil registration 1849 Sudbury Elizabeth Tiffin age 85. June quarter vol.12 page 329

a digital image is available for £3.

It might be worth getting to see who reported her death.

[amondg]

Notes
There is also a Sarah Tiffin bap 5 January 1803 at the same Non Conformist
daughter of English Tiffen and Elizabeth.

There is a Sarah Tiffen who married William Bird 6 November 1837 at Bulmer and in 1841 Elizabeth is living with a William Bird and his wife Sarah

[amondg]

Hope this helps Ref National Archives.  (free to download if you sign in.)

English Tiffen of Bulmer Essex died 1806
dated 12 December 1806
Executor is Daniel Tiffen of Acton? nr. Sudbury Suffolk his brother.
Late brother William Tiffen of Bocking -Miller
Brother John Tiffen (it doesn't say where he lives)

So this gives you three brothers to trace. Daniel, William, John and English all should have the same father. 

[amondg]

Found the marriage of Sarah Tiffen to William Bird on FreeREG.

He was of Little Cornard Suffolk - Farmer  his father Thomas Bird.

She was of Bulmer - her father English Tiffen -Farmer

Married by license  Witness was her sister Elizabeth Alice Ranson and James Ranson.

[amondg]

Memorial at Bulmer Essex
Chest Tomb with Pillars.
In memory of Mary wife of G W Lawrence of Sudbury and daughter of English and Elizabeth Tiffen who died September  1837 age 35 years.

Ref: FindMyPast
----------------
James Ranson also was a witness to the marriage of Mary Tiffen to George William Lawrence of St Peter Sudbury at Bulmer 7 May 1829  by License.
The other witness was Elizabeth Garrett and Jeffrey Deal.

[amondg]

To answer your question "Why not Sudbury Suffolk"

If she had lived all her life in Bulmer Elizabeth made the assumption she was born there, and she probably was, her parents were not C of E and so baptised at the Meeting House in Sudbury.

It's only about 3 miles away, even though in different counties.

I can't find Mary though based on her age at death born circa 1802.