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Possible date of these two Bothwell photos.
« on: Friday 18 October 24 23:41 BST (UK) »
These were found in my wife's grandmother's stuff......Born 1905.

Very poor photo quality taken by Henderson in Auchterarder

Think they may be her father b Lithuania 1875 and mother b Belarus 1881

Married Bothwell 1902 and lived in Lochgelly, Fife.

Any clues to the date and anything about their clothing would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Possible date of these two Bothwell photos.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 19 October 24 23:31 BST (UK) »
I'm not an expert so won't hazard a guess at actual dates but I think these photos could be of people a generation or more earlier than you've suggested. Could your wife's grandmother have had any other ancestors living in the area in the middle to late 19th century?
I hope moving it up the board will get one of the experts to enlighten us.
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Re: Possible date of these two Bothwell photos.
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 19 October 24 23:48 BST (UK) »
Style of their clothing and hair style of female suggest mid to late 1860s.

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Re: Possible date of these two Bothwell photos.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 October 24 11:43 BST (UK) »
Agree with Gadget 1860's.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: Possible date of these two Bothwell photos.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 October 24 19:34 BST (UK) »
Thank you for the information about 1860's which rules out the Belarussians and Lithuanians who came over to Dundee around 1900 and actually met in Scotland before going on to follow the coal in Bothwell and Lochgelly.

Certainly have two sets of grandparents born about 1840's who may fit the bill coming from Gilmerton and Bo'ness but no family from anywhere around Auchterarder.........

Be interested to find out if anyone has details on when Henderson's Photographer was actually situated in Auchterarder.

Thanks again.

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Re: Possible date of these two Bothwell photos.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 October 24 20:12 BST (UK) »
I'm not sure if this is of any help but Auchterarder is mentioned in this list. You have to contact the site owner for details though.

https://www.cartedevisite.co.uk/studios/scotland/


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Re: Possible date of these two Bothwell photos.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 October 24 23:48 BST (UK) »
Doesn't mention Auchterarder itself, however there was a libel case in 1866 brought by photographers in Perth. John HENDERSON and John HENDERSON jnr, father and son, both photographers sued by James PORTER, photographer. John jnr is of George St, Perth.
Wednesday,  Oct. 17, 1866
Publication: Dundee Courier

Also a fire at the premises of John HENDERSON in 1892 at Hospital St, Perth.
Tuesday,  Oct. 11, 1892
Publication: Edinburgh Evening News

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Re: Possible date of these two Bothwell photos.
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 October 24 10:38 BST (UK) »
Logos on the back of 1860's photos were quite basic but often included an address.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: Possible date of these two Bothwell photos.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 October 24 18:28 BST (UK) »
"The Early Photographers of Perthshire" by Roben Antoniewicz and Paul Philippou mentions Peter S. Henderson, Auchterarder. An example of his work from Perth Museum & Art Gallery, "unidentified woman 1889-1901" shows a mount identical to the ones here.
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
LINDSAY - Lanarkshire
PURDIE - Lanarkshire; W. Lothian
POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
MACKENZIE, MORISON - Stornoway
ARCHIBALD, HAY, HUNTER, SNADDON - Clackmannanshire
COXON, HALL, JACKSON, SHOTTON - Northumberland